Start11 v2.5 Changelog (Released 01/15/2025)

01/15/2025

Version

• UI: 2.5

• Start11Config.exe: 2.5.0.0

Platforms

• Stardock and Steam

Changes

• NEW Adds experimental vertical taskbar support Windows 11 (23H2+ only)

• NEW Centred taskbar buttons mode in Win11 now works on > 2 monitor setups

• Fixed issue with dragging taskbar buttons to the left of the taskbar when centered

• Fix for DisplayFusion issue

• Tweaks for changing the size of taskbar icons etc

• Fixed an issue with Microsoft Loop and a resource leak

• Fix for position of jumplist on mixed vertical and nonvertical setups

• Fix for config having a nonfunctional indicator on the left causing an odd blank box

• Fixed 1 en-us localization issue

• Detection of 23H2 as we were detecting beta channel only

• Added UI options for icon size, button width, and height to advanced taskbar settings.  Only properly apply when not using OS autohide

• Fixed issue with Win+X menu going away when you mouseover a vertical taskbar

• Resolved issue with touch long press to get a right click not working on vertical taskbars for items

• Resolved flicker on custom start button when mouseover on a vertical taskbar

• Removed excess slider on advanced taskbar settings

• Fixed issue with Win+X menu appearing in the wrong location when taskbar is on the right depending on the screen scaling factor

• Resolved issue with on-top secondary taskbars causing a hang issue.

• Fixes for Directory Opus taskbar docked bars

• Added a registry key to make S11 on Win10 using center mode delay before updating : S11_DelayCentreUpdateWin10
  value in ms
  
  Registry location for values:
  HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Stardock\Start8\Start8.ini\Start8

• Removed excess All apps item on Win10 all apps list

• Tweaked color of the taskbar when using color on the taskbar and also resolved accent color choice being wrong sometimes on the taskbar.

• Fixed Win10 style on vertical taskbars not correctly painting buttons for > 1 window open when in combine mode.

• Fixes issue with top aligned taskbar getting misaligned horizontally

• Fixes issue with combined mode taskbar buttons not performing correct action on click when having a monitor in negative coordinates and also not working for vertical taskbars on the left

• Fix for having a monitor with negative coordinates stopping combine mode window switch popup always showing when clicking on the taskbar.  Note that newer insider versions of Windows no longer support this and will switch between windows on click rather than show the popup.  This may be a bug in insiders and fix itself in the future

• Fix for juddering jumplist when on top and using a rounded taskbar.

• Fix for win+X menu when using on top and autohide having the submenu misaligned when not reserving one pixel for the taskbar.

• Fixed overflow taskbar system tray icons not showing correctly when not using enhanced taskbar but with a top of screen taskbar.

• Fix for top taskbar thumbs on insider

• Rounded taskbar settings no longer impact taskbar items on vertical taskbars

• Fix for thumbs on Windows Insider with autohide left aligned taskbar

• Fix for blank taskbar after rebooting or log off \ on

• Further login tweaks for vertical taskbars

• Fix for >2 monitor taskbar center mode

• Clock text on the vertical taskbars is made less small when wider

• Fixes some secondary monitor issues with autohide, vertical and screen workspace

• Fixes a case of no settings showing in search

• Removes - File explorer from taskbar buttons

• Resolved issue with clicking on pinned taskbar items in combined mode causing a new instance of the app to launch sometimes

• Resolved an issue found when fixing that to do with clicking doing nothing on newer OS builds sometimes if the thumbs window was open.

• Resolved thumbs placement issue with beta channel update

• Resolved jumplist not showing when taskbar is on top on secondary displays and now with enhanced taskbar off on primary too

• Removed hyphen from ‘Task Manager’ in the supported languages.

***Reserved***

Thats fine, yes, just to be sure to reboot as that is all-important post-install. 

Sean Drohan
Stardock Product Lifecycle Manager

Unfortunately the empty taskbar and unresponsive system persists when not immediately logging in after a reboot.

The system tray icons and their respective programs took my firewall control 2 minutes to load, Sandboxie 3 minutes and my VPN 3,5 minutes   

Update Jan. 3: Same happens when pc is powered up and not logging in immediately.

..... none of which happens if I sign out, leave the os on the lock/login screen and log back in an hour a so later.

< Windows 11 Pro 24H2 build 26100.1742 >

Have you been able to check why I see no thumbnails at my vertical taskbar? Nothing resolved with the latest beta.

My Windows version is 23H2, 22631.4602.

Hello there, just installed new beta (uninstall previous - reboor - install - reboot) and here is the situaion for the 2 bugs I reported in previous thread:

TREMBLING RIGHT-CLICK MENUS ON TASKBAR ICONS:

Still present if this option is active:

MISALIGNED CHILD MENU ON START BUTTON:

Solved!   

Thanks as usuale for your support!

Baio

Thank you for the effort and update.

Sean Drohan
Stardock Product Lifecycle Manager

Thanks Adam, I will try that a little later.

Thanks for all the help and follow ups, Adam & Sean   

Hi Adam/Sean,

I did as instructed, but unfortunately.....

I uninstalled, did not keep settings, reinstalled, set my preferences (did not import old settings) and restarted. First I immediately logged in to see if Start11 had kept all settings, and then I restarted and logged in after 20 minutes.
Like I said: unfortunately I then still get the empty taskbar and unresponsive system (nothing happens when right-clicking or ctr-alt-del). Start11 menu is still functioning and enabling me to sign out and in again, after which all is well.

< Windows 11 Pro 24H2 build 26100.1742 >

Reporting 5 different problems with the beta (not only the one with the shift click problem, please don't delete)

Windows 11 24H2 26100.2605, Start112.49.3 video Working with 3 monitors

Installed Groupy, Fences and Start11 v2

1. Search is not centered video

2. I was able to change the taskbar size but I had that option disabled, after enabling and disabling it, I'm not able to change it (that's the expected behavior) right now, hope this doesn't change on reboot.

3. I have the option to show my pinned icons in all task bars but they don't show up when booting Windows, I have to go and click somewhere for them to appear in other monitors.

4. The start menu icon shows in only 1 of my 2 secondary monitors and most of the times even in none, the option to hide it in secondary monitors is disabled and I already tried to enable it and then disable, it keeps occuring. I have the centered option selected, if I select the option to align to center this doesn't occur.

5. Windows Explorer always tries to open the same instance even if it's in other monitor and even if I shift click (as seen in video); I disconnected all my monitors and tried to shift click and the same happens, it won't open a new instance. video

I found out that if I open a Windows Explorer Windows, open another folder that isn't the starting one, then shift click works once, meaning: if the starting folder is open in any monitor, shift click won't work. Even then when it works, it weirdly always loads in the same monitor and the same position and size, it doesn't remember its last position, size and monitor.

Thanks!

Quick question for you.

If you set the taskbar to the top or bottom do you get the correct thumbnails then?

Is it possible to have systray icons in multiple columns if the (vertical) taskbar is wide enough? That's possible on Windows 10 and is quite useful.
Also the clock's font is a little too small with the vertical toolbar (4K display with 150% scale).
And it doesn't auto-update and says it's up to date when manually checking in the About menu, when it's not. Didn't realize there was a newer version until I went in my account and manually downloaded and installed it...

Hi, quick question about the monitor layout above:

Monitor 1 is the laptop own screen physically situated per the layout above
Monitors 2 & 3 are a Samsung C49RG9x 49" monitor configured as 2 x 2560 x 1440 monitors (Samsung "PBP" - "Picture by Picture" mode).
Monitor 2 is configured as the main display with Start112.49.3 configured as a vertical taskbar on this monitor only.

When accessing (right clicking) the taskbar tray icons (bottom left of monitor 2) is there a way to bias the tray icon dialog to appear in monitor 2 only?
Currently they appear in monitor 1 where the borders of monitors 1 & 2 overlap.

I guess a workaround is to position monitor 1 to be below monitor 2 in display settings but then the mouse pointer tracking can get confusing...