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Start11 1.2 RC 1 Feedback Thread

Start11 1.2 RC 1 Feedback Thread

With the Start11 1.2 RC 1 release today, we are creating this thread so that users can report any observed issues.  

Obtaining the beta:

Object Desktop members can get the beta from within Object Desktop Manager with 'show beta downloads' enabled:

Individual purchases (as well as Object Desktop Members) can also be obtained from your account page:

https://store.stardock.com/myaccount/products

As we want as much feedback as possible for this release, we are making Start11 1.2 beta available to all.  The following direct link to the installer can be used for both licensed users and for any potential client wanting to (30 day) trial Start11 1.2 beta.

1.16: https://cdn.stardock.us/downloads/public/software/start/Start11_1.16-j140-Setup.exe
1.17: https://cdn.stardock.us/downloads/public/software/start/Start11_1.17-j151-Setup.exe
1.18: https://cdn.stardock.us/downloads/public/software/start/Start11_1.18-j154-Setup.exe
1.19: https://cdn.stardock.us/downloads/public/software/start/Start11_1.19-j155-Setup.exe

Reporting an issue:

Please include the following for anything found:

  • Exact Windows version \ build (winver.exe)
  • Detailed steps to recreate the issue seen
  • Screenshots and videos are very helpful.  Videos can be uploaded to a cloud drive services (GoogleDrive, DropBox, OneDrive, YouTube) and link included in your post.  Images can be directly added.
  • If there are specific apps that the app does not work (well) with, please note what apps and their exact versions.  If any app is not common, a link to a trial version would be appreciated.

Thank you for your interest and any time you put into making Start11 a better product.

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Reply #26 Top

Quoting Thenerdbomber, reply 10

Thank you Neil for the response,

I am on beta channel (not crazy enough for dev lol) and we were happily on a 22000.XXX build until MS jumped us to a higher build. 

and sh@t went sideways..lol

 
End of Thenerdbomber's quote

I would argue that if you want to use any beta software for any product you should leave feedback to the developers of that product and aim to make it better.

Things like broken transparency and texture should be brought to their attentions as well.

We all know Microsoft could use some feedback that they hopefully will listen to.

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Reply #27 Top

Now with the ability to have separated folders etc. in the taskbar, can you bring back the possibility that with a right click, there is a menu item to just close the chosen folder?  Right now all it has is "close all windows on this display" - which I don't wat.

Thanks!

Reply #28 Top

Am I supposed to be able to do anything with these taskbar icons? I'd like to remove them or at least able to click on them. Currently, hovering over them does nothing and there is no right-click menu for them either.

 

 

Reply #29 Top

Quoting awbruso, reply 28

Am I supposed to be able to do anything with these taskbar icons? I'd like to remove them or at least able to click on them. Currently, hovering over them does nothing and there is no right-click menu for them either.

 

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End of awbruso's quote

They should work as normal.

Which version of Windows are you using and are you using a mouse, touchpad, pen or touch to interact with them?

Also what scaling factor is your monitor set to?

 

Reply #30 Top

I have found a few things in the w11 start menu: 

 

When I set hide icon text, the default windows icons are set to small.

When i have hide icon text off, and have combined several shortcuts into a folder,  setting static images after like 3 or 4 icons start11 restarts for every icon that is changed after that.

My windows scale is set to 200%.

 

The location in c:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\ is not updating for me.

if i delete a shortcut, it says it is missing, even after 10 minutes and a reboot. 

 

creating folders and dragging icons does not refresh the folder preview of icons.  it just shows the very first icon instead of the first few.

 

Also i see taskbar transparency is disabled now for windows 11 dev.   It was working fine before, can you please enable it again ? 

 

hope this helps.

Reply #31 Top

Reposting in every release thread until it's addressed. Why can't we drag an icon from the Start11 menu to the desktop?

Reply #32 Top

I read in another post I think it might be in this one that the new start 11  built the task bar from the ground up. Does that mean it's a total replacement?

I'd like to see is under adjust menu transparency it only goes down to 11% I'd like to see you go down further also the menu is frosted I would like to see it actually clear glass like the task bar itself.

Of course would like to see a way to disable balloon help but I don't think that's part of the taskbar but part of Windows.

Peace 

Reply #33 Top

When using the Windows 11 style menu opening the menu will show the default size until the animation is complete and then resize to w/e custom size you may have

 

Reproduce:

1. Resize the menu Horizontally to a new width.

2. Click the start button to open the menu.

As the menu is animating it uses the default size and then resizes to the user set size after animation.

Reply #34 Top

1.19 is broken.  Microsoft taskbar icons (search, desktop, weather) do not work as well as system items (right side - network, sound volume/select device, date time/notifications) do not work.  No clicks left/right work, they are just sitting pretty. ;)

 

 

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Reply #35 Top

when you right click on time/date, submenu appear but you cant click on it.

Reply #36 Top

Quoting halcyon6969, reply 34

1.19 is broken.  Microsoft taskbar icons (search, desktop, weather) do not work as well as system items (right side - network, sound volume/select device, date time/notifications) do not work.  No clicks left/right work, they are just sitting pretty. ;)

 

 
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Which version of Windows 11 are you using?

Also are you using a mouse, touch, pen or a touchpad?

Reply #37 Top

My laptop is running Windows 10 Pro 21H2 build 19044.1620

Display resolution is 1326 x 768 (Recommended)

The taskbar is centre aligned

The issue is with the search popup. The right hand side gets slight cropped and for no reason I can find. I have 3 variations of it.

1.       Correct view

 

2.       Cropped (with missing X)

 

3.       Cropped again

Reply #38 Top

Quoting WhiteLight76, reply 30

I have found a few things in the w11 start menu: 

 

When I set hide icon text, the default windows icons are set to small.

When i have hide icon text off, and have combined several shortcuts into a folder,  setting static images after like 3 or 4 icons start11 restarts for every icon that is changed after that.

My windows scale is set to 200%.

 

The location in c:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\ is not updating for me.

if i delete a shortcut, it says it is missing, even after 10 minutes and a reboot. 

 

creating folders and dragging icons does not refresh the folder preview of icons.  it just shows the very first icon instead of the first few.

 

Also i see taskbar transparency is disabled now for windows 11 dev.   It was working fine before, can you please enable it again ? 

 

hope this helps.
End of WhiteLight76's quote

Taskbar transparency stopped working properly on later dev channel builds.  As such it is disabled for now.

Please remember we offer no official support for beta/dev channel versions of Windows.

If you pinned an item to the start menu and later deleted the target then the pin may remain.  The same as if you made a shortcut on the desktop and removed the target.

The all apps list should not continue to show it however as that shows exactly what the OS knows about.

Reply #39 Top

Win11 21H2 (Build 22000.593) Desktop machine

Using mouse... tried with wacom pen now too, there is no click function working right or left.  It seems to be all microsoft items.  The pen tool that appears doesn't work either, language select, network or sound.  Other items in the right side (3rd party) seem fine. 

side note all was working great in 1.18.

 

Reply #40 Top
Quoting gsk123mi, reply 37

My laptop is running Windows 10 Pro 21H2 build 19044.1620

Display resolution is 1326 x 768 (Recommended)

The taskbar is centre aligned

The issue is with the search popup. The right hand side gets slight cropped and for no reason I can find. I have 3 variations of it.

1.       Correct view

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2.       Cropped (with missing X)

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3.       Cropped again

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By the looks of it the issue is it went off the side of the screen.

As a workaround I would pin a few more apps which will shift the search button further left.

Reply #41 Top

Quoting halcyon6969, reply 39

Win11 21H2 (Build 22000.593) Desktop machine

Using mouse... tried with wacom pen now too, there is no click function working right or left.  It seems to be all microsoft items.  The pen tool that appears doesn't work either, language select, network or sound.  Other items in the right side (3rd party) seem fine. 

side note all was working great in 1.18.

 
End of halcyon6969's quote

What scaling factor is your monitor set to and how many monitors do you have attached?

Reply #42 Top

Quoting Neil, reply 41


Quoting halcyon6969,

Win11 21H2 (Build 22000.593) Desktop machine

Using mouse... tried with wacom pen now too, there is no click function working right or left.  It seems to be all microsoft items.  The pen tool that appears doesn't work either, language select, network or sound.  Other items in the right side (3rd party) seem fine. 

side note all was working great in 1.18.

 



What scaling factor is your monitor set to and how many monitors do you have attached?

End of Neil's quote

100% and two monitors.  Taskbar set to bottom on both. 

Reply #43 Top

Quoting halcyon6969, reply 42


Quoting Neil Banfield,






Quoting halcyon6969,



Win11 21H2 (Build 22000.593) Desktop machine

Using mouse... tried with wacom pen now too, there is no click function working right or left.  It seems to be all microsoft items.  The pen tool that appears doesn't work either, language select, network or sound.  Other items in the right side (3rd party) seem fine. 

side note all was working great in 1.18.

 



What scaling factor is your monitor set to and how many monitors do you have attached?



100% and two monitors.  Taskbar set to bottom on both. 

End of halcyon6969's quote

Is the primary/main monitor on the right of the secondary?

Reply #44 Top

Quoting Fat4l, reply 35

when you right click on time/date, submenu appear but you cant click on it.
End of Fat4l's quote

Is your taskbar at the top of the screen?

Reply #45 Top

Quoting ldeveraux, reply 31

Reposting in every release thread until it's addressed. Why can't we drag an icon from the Start11 menu to the desktop?
End of ldeveraux's quote

Drag and drop from the menu to the desktop is not a feature of Start11.

As an alternative we are considering adding create shortcut on desktop to the right click menu instead.

Reply #46 Top

Quoting Neil, reply 43


Quoting halcyon6969,






Quoting Neil Banfield,











Quoting halcyon6969,







Win11 21H2 (Build 22000.593) Desktop machine

Using mouse... tried with wacom pen now too, there is no click function working right or left.  It seems to be all microsoft items.  The pen tool that appears doesn't work either, language select, network or sound.  Other items in the right side (3rd party) seem fine. 

side note all was working great in 1.18.

 




What scaling factor is your monitor set to and how many monitors do you have attached?




100% and two monitors.  Taskbar set to bottom on both. 



Is the primary/main monitor on the right of the secondary?

End of Neil's quote

Yes primary on right, and secondar on left. 

Reply #47 Top

Quoting halcyon6969, reply 46


Quoting Neil Banfield,






Quoting halcyon6969,











Quoting Neil Banfield,


















Quoting halcyon6969,











Win11 21H2 (Build 22000.593) Desktop machine

Using mouse... tried with wacom pen now too, there is no click function working right or left.  It seems to be all microsoft items.  The pen tool that appears doesn't work either, language select, network or sound.  Other items in the right side (3rd party) seem fine. 

side note all was working great in 1.18.

 





What scaling factor is your monitor set to and how many monitors do you have attached?





100% and two monitors.  Taskbar set to bottom on both. 




Is the primary/main monitor on the right of the secondary?



Yes primary on right, and secondar on left. 

End of halcyon6969's quote

That's good as I think I know what's going on.

Will get it checked into tomorrow, thanks for your bug report.

 

 

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Reply #48 Top

I'm on Windows 11, standard mouse user. I've got 4 monitors, my main monitor is 4K and at 100% scale, and my other 3 are 125% scaling. One of them is a 2K monitor, the other 2 are standard resolutions.

I ended up un-installing the beta since I was having too many issues. I'll try again once it's a bit more polished.

Reply #49 Top

Quoting halcyon6969, reply 39

Win11 21H2 (Build 22000.593) Desktop machine

Using mouse... tried with wacom pen now too, there is no click function working right or left.  It seems to be all microsoft items.  The pen tool that appears doesn't work either, language select, network or sound.  Other items in the right side (3rd party) seem fine. 

side note all was working great in 1.18.
End of halcyon6969's quote

Sounds a lot like I am seeing.  Can't click on search, desktop switcher, network, sound, clock icons.  No right click, no left click.

Version 1.19

Windows 11 21H2 22000.593

Two monitors, primary on right.  Start11 is enhancing the taskbar.  Taskbar on bottom.

Reply #50 Top

It looks like primary to the right of the secondary monitor is triggering a problem.

We will be working on fixing this for the next update.

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