Two issues that seriously need fixing in Windows 11 / File Explorer

One of these issues was supposedly fixed according to previous update, but nope...

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Shows 2 different Groupy titlebar/tabs issues on Windows 11Intro: I have identified a couple of major issues with Groupy and Windows 11 that have to be addressed as these particular issues are extremely irritating. A little further into this post I talk about a bug I posted about previously which is still yet to be fixed, but I would like to mention a much more problematic and noticeable bug I have been noticing with File Explorer (possibly others).

Both of the bugs I will be discussing below are circled and numbered in the screenshot image above...

Bug 1: When you are using File Explorer and you have opted to use the old Windows 10-style ribbon (this might be an issue with the default Windows 11-style as well) You get overlapped text of special tabs that popup and are drawn extending onto the titlebar area when you are in a File Explorer location such as a USB Drive, CD/DVD Drive, and various other special shell locations that initiate the location-specific functions available to you at that time. This often makes this special tab and it's text over/underlap with the tabs and their text of the Groupy combined titlebar.

Bug 2: A number of months ago, when Windows 11 was still available only to Windows Insider Developers, I originally posted about the issues with Groupy and how the first tab in a app/window group doesn't conform to the new rounded UI window design when the first tab is selected and/or it's tab is being hovered over with the mouse from another tab (a different window focused for that group/application).

I seem to recall reading in one of the "What's New" that's released with every update featuring bug fixes and new features, that they claim to have resolved this issue, yet I still see it just the same as I did from the first time I booted into Windows 11 months ago now... :annoyed:  

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Nostalgic Stardock Memories (bonus for Stardock employees reading pleasure and/or ego):

I've always been a fan of your guys' apps, Stardock; been a customer since the WindowBlinds 6-era (maybe WindowBlinds 7?) I'm referring to the version the where you guys managed to accurately re-create the Vista/Win7 aero-glass with real-time auto-refreshing blur, whereas all other attempts were either too slow and/or taxing on resources, looked like, well, crap, weren't usable in a real-world daily-driver usage scenario, or had been poorly attempted at replicating by simply making the whole window translucent without the blur using the alphablending capabilities using layered window APIs that had been around since the XP/2000-era.

I had installed it on my teachers laptop (whom I was close friends with, enough to be trusted to have free reign on her school supplied laptop) and at some point her laptop needed some updates I believe and ended up in the school Tech Department (where I also was a volunteer at, even though I was a student) All of the guys in the Tech Department had their minds blown by the fact her Windows XP laptop appeared to be running Windows 7 with aero-glass and all and they couldn't figure out how I had done it. I shared with them that I had installed a paid version of your guys' WindowBlinds software to achieve this for her. They didn't think it was even possibly up until that point... Heh.. Just thought I'd share a little memory I have from high school from almost 15 years ago now. B)  

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groupy windows 11 file explorer explorer bug issues
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Reply #1 from Stardock Forums Top

I don't think groupy will get any improvement. It's probably the least popular stardock software and they are focusing on other things.
Hopefully another company will make a good alternative with windows 11 ui that just works.

Reply #2 from Stardock Forums Top

Hello,
Sorry to hear you are having issues.

  1. Does the issue happen when you do not use that Windows 10 ribbon style on Windows 11 explorer?
  2. This is known, hopefully be resolve on its next update.

Quoting giannisgn89, reply 1

I don't think groupy will get any improvement. It's probably the least popular stardock software and they are focusing on other things.
Hopefully another company will make a good alternative with windows 11 ui that just works.
End of giannisgn89's quote

I don't think that is true, looking at Brad post here : there is a plan for Group 2.0 in there. https://forums.stardock.com/502919/get;3820246

Thank you,

Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant

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Reply #3 from Stardock Forums Top

With regards to the first issue, I am afraid thats what happens when you mess with the OS to make explorer act like Windows 10.

The issue is the Win11 explorer required different handling than Windows 10 which Groupy is doing and it doesn't know you have something hacking back the Win10 explorer style in.  The Win11 fix causes that issue with a Win10 explorer, but the Win 10 handling causes a problem with painting the entire bar on Win11 normally.

On the rounded tabs issue, thats not something we have addressed or plan to for Groupy 1.x

Whilst Groupy 1.x will run on Windows 11 and we resolved some issues which made it unusable, specific Windows 11 support is planned for Groupy 2.

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Reply #4 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting basj, reply 2

Hello,
Sorry to hear you are having issues.

 

    1. Does the issue happen when you do not use that Windows 10 ribbon style on Windows 11 explorer?

 

    1. This is known, hopefully be resolve on its next update.

 



Quoting giannisgn89,
reply 1

I don't think groupy will get any improvement. It's probably the least popular stardock software and they are focusing on other things.
Hopefully another company will make a good alternative with windows 11 ui that just works.



I don't think that is true, looking at Brad post here : there is a plan for Group 2.0 in there. https://forums.stardock.com/502919/get;3820246

Thank you,

Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant

End of basj's quote

I have been trying everything I can think of short of re-installing everything (which is a last resort I don't see happening given how much time I've put into customizing every little aspect for hours upon hours) I seem to recall that it was still an issue when the Windows 11 Dev Insider release installed on my PC, at which point I had modded my ribbon using WinAero shortly  thereafter, I think you guys said you had released a fix for this after that time which I installed, and much to my chagrin the issue was still there, but perhaps it would have been fixed (at that point) had I not modified it... Damn...  

Well, I'm glad to hear Groupy isn't something you guys are bailing on. I am pleased, and eager to hear more about Groupy 2.0. It's truly a staple of my desktop-usage that I couldn't ever go back to using Windows (or any OS for that matter) without... Maybe you guys should make a Mac, and/or Linux version on that note?

 

Quoting giannisgn89, reply 1

I don't think groupy will get any improvement. It's probably the least popular stardock software and they are focusing on other things.
Hopefully another company will make a good alternative with windows 11 ui that just works.
End of giannisgn89's quote

I always have faith in Stardock to deliver... And if they don't have it out now, they always come out with a clean product that is far more professional than the competitors; it's just what they do.

 

Quoting Neil, reply 3

With regards to the first issue, I am afraid thats what happens when you mess with the OS to make explorer act like Windows 10.

The issue is the Win11 explorer required different handling than Windows 10 which Groupy is doing and it doesn't know you have something hacking back the Win10 explorer style in.  The Win11 fix causes that issue with a Win10 explorer, but the Win 10 handling causes a problem with painting the entire bar on Win11 normally.

On the rounded tabs issue, thats not something we have addressed or plan to for Groupy 1.x

Whilst Groupy 1.x will run on Windows 11 and we resolved some issues which made it unusable, specific Windows 11 support is planned for Groupy 2.
End of Neil's quote

As stated above, I can't wait for Groupy 2, and will be eagerly waiting for the ObjectDesktop button to say "Update" on Groupy with version 2.0. Is this something that will be a free upgrade to people who already own Groupy 1.x?

Also as stated above, I'm glad to hear Groupy isn't something you guys are bailing on. I am pleased, and eager to hear more about Groupy 2.0. It's truly a staple of my desktop-usage that I couldn't ever go back to using Windows (or any OS for that matter) without... Maybe you guys should make a Mac, and/or Linux version on that note?

 

Have you guys an idea how I might be able to restore my File Explorer to the standard Windows 11 style? I tried setting the setting in WinAero that changed it back to default but it still has the ribbon there... It's very annoying... Now it's making it so my back + forward buttons, and my address bar aren't visible, which is really hindering my usage... Perhaps a registry fix??

Thanks again for everything you guys do, you are much appreciated!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Reply #5 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Quoting Syntanyll, reply 4


Quoting basj,
reply 2

Hello,
Sorry to hear you are having issues.



 



      1. Does the issue happen when you do not use that Windows 10 ribbon style on Windows 11 explorer?



 



      1. This is known, hopefully be resolve on its next update.



 







Quoting giannisgn89,

reply 1


I don't think groupy will get any improvement. It's probably the least popular stardock software and they are focusing on other things.
Hopefully another company will make a good alternative with windows 11 ui that just works.



I don't think that is true, looking at Brad post here : there is a plan for Group 2.0 in there. https://forums.stardock.com/502919/get;3820246

Thank you,

Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant



I have been trying everything I can think of short of re-installing everything (which is a last resort I don't see happening given how much time I've put into customizing every little aspect for hours upon hours) I seem to recall that it was still an issue when the Windows 11 Dev Insider release installed on my PC, at which point I had modded my ribbon using WinAero shortly  thereafter, I think you guys said you had released a fix for this after that time which I installed, and much to my chagrin the issue was still there, but perhaps it would have been fixed (at that point) had I not modified it... Damn...  

Well, I'm glad to hear Groupy isn't something you guys are bailing on. I am pleased, and eager to hear more about Groupy 2.0. It's truly a staple of my desktop-usage that I couldn't ever go back to using Windows (or any OS for that matter) without... Maybe you guys should make a Mac, and/or Linux version on that note?

 


Quoting giannisgn89,
reply 1

I don't think groupy will get any improvement. It's probably the least popular stardock software and they are focusing on other things.
Hopefully another company will make a good alternative with windows 11 ui that just works.



I always have faith in Stardock to deliver... And if they don't have it out now, they always come out with a clean product that is far more professional than the competitors; it's just what they do.

 


Quoting Neil Banfield,
reply 3

With regards to the first issue, I am afraid thats what happens when you mess with the OS to make explorer act like Windows 10.

The issue is the Win11 explorer required different handling than Windows 10 which Groupy is doing and it doesn't know you have something hacking back the Win10 explorer style in.  The Win11 fix causes that issue with a Win10 explorer, but the Win 10 handling causes a problem with painting the entire bar on Win11 normally.

On the rounded tabs issue, thats not something we have addressed or plan to for Groupy 1.x

Whilst Groupy 1.x will run on Windows 11 and we resolved some issues which made it unusable, specific Windows 11 support is planned for Groupy 2.



As stated above, I can't wait for Groupy 2, and will be eagerly waiting for the ObjectDesktop button to say "Update" on Groupy with version 2.0. Is this something that will be a free upgrade to people who already own Groupy 1.x?

Also as stated above, I'm glad to hear Groupy isn't something you guys are bailing on. I am pleased, and eager to hear more about Groupy 2.0. It's truly a staple of my desktop-usage that I couldn't ever go back to using Windows (or any OS for that matter) without... Maybe you guys should make a Mac, and/or Linux version on that note?

 

Have you guys an idea how I might be able to restore my File Explorer to the standard Windows 11 style? I tried setting the setting in WinAero that changed it back to default but it still has the ribbon there... It's very annoying... Now it's making it so my back + forward buttons, and my address bar aren't visible, which is really hindering my usage... Perhaps a registry fix??

Thanks again for everything you guys do, you are much appreciated!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

End of Syntanyll's quote

 

What did you use in the first place to change the ribbon, ExplorerPatcher maybe, if so uninstall it.

Reply #6 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting naroon1, reply 5


Quoting Syntanyll,
reply 4






Quoting basj,

reply 2


Hello,
Sorry to hear you are having issues.



 







        1. Does the issue happen when you do not use that Windows 10 ribbon style on Windows 11 explorer?







 







        1. This is known, hopefully be resolve on its next update.







 










Quoting giannisgn89,



reply 1




I don't think groupy will get any improvement. It's probably the least popular stardock software and they are focusing on other things.
Hopefully another company will make a good alternative with windows 11 ui that just works.




I don't think that is true, looking at Brad post here : there is a plan for Group 2.0 in there. https://forums.stardock.com/502919/get;3820246

Thank you,

Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant




I have been trying everything I can think of short of re-installing everything (which is a last resort I don't see happening given how much time I've put into customizing every little aspect for hours upon hours) I seem to recall that it was still an issue when the Windows 11 Dev Insider release installed on my PC, at which point I had modded my ribbon using WinAero shortly  thereafter, I think you guys said you had released a fix for this after that time which I installed, and much to my chagrin the issue was still there, but perhaps it would have been fixed (at that point) had I not modified it... Damn...  

Well, I'm glad to hear Groupy isn't something you guys are bailing on. I am pleased, and eager to hear more about Groupy 2.0. It's truly a staple of my desktop-usage that I couldn't ever go back to using Windows (or any OS for that matter) without... Maybe you guys should make a Mac, and/or Linux version on that note?

 






Quoting giannisgn89,

reply 1


I don't think groupy will get any improvement. It's probably the least popular stardock software and they are focusing on other things.
Hopefully another company will make a good alternative with windows 11 ui that just works.



I always have faith in Stardock to deliver... And if they don't have it out now, they always come out with a clean product that is far more professional than the competitors; it's just what they do.

 






Quoting Neil Banfield,

reply 3


With regards to the first issue, I am afraid thats what happens when you mess with the OS to make explorer act like Windows 10.

The issue is the Win11 explorer required different handling than Windows 10 which Groupy is doing and it doesn't know you have something hacking back the Win10 explorer style in.  The Win11 fix causes that issue with a Win10 explorer, but the Win 10 handling causes a problem with painting the entire bar on Win11 normally.

On the rounded tabs issue, thats not something we have addressed or plan to for Groupy 1.x

Whilst Groupy 1.x will run on Windows 11 and we resolved some issues which made it unusable, specific Windows 11 support is planned for Groupy 2.



As stated above, I can't wait for Groupy 2, and will be eagerly waiting for the ObjectDesktop button to say "Update" on Groupy with version 2.0. Is this something that will be a free upgrade to people who already own Groupy 1.x?

Also as stated above, I'm glad to hear Groupy isn't something you guys are bailing on. I am pleased, and eager to hear more about Groupy 2.0. It's truly a staple of my desktop-usage that I couldn't ever go back to using Windows (or any OS for that matter) without... Maybe you guys should make a Mac, and/or Linux version on that note?

 

Have you guys an idea how I might be able to restore my File Explorer to the standard Windows 11 style? I tried setting the setting in WinAero that changed it back to default but it still has the ribbon there... It's very annoying... Now it's making it so my back + forward buttons, and my address bar aren't visible, which is really hindering my usage... Perhaps a registry fix??

Thanks again for everything you guys do, you are much appreciated!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



 

What did you use in the first place to change the ribbon, ExplorerPatcher maybe, if so uninstall it.

End of naroon1's quote

 

WinAero. I tried reverting changes back to default already...

Reply #7 from Stardock Forums Top

WinAero is one of those things that will change your registry but wont revert them if you uninstall. I believe the way to revert them back is to actually reinstall WinAero and make sure it is up to date and then reset all tweaks inside the program and then uninstall it