burbles

Join Date 01/2021

Is there a Groupy Instruction Manual?

Grouped Software will not open appropriate files.

Is there a Groupy manual or something. I can't get Groupy to open a set of apps with the associated files open.

For example, if I have Textmaker open with Test.doc and Cherrytree open with Text.ctb, combine them using Groupy and save this state as Test in Groupy. When I open the Test in Groupy again both Textmaker and Cherrytree open but with default documents.

I tried a second time, but combine the software first and then within Groupy opened the relevant test files and then saved state as Test2. Opening Test2 again in Groupy both TTExmaker and Cherrytree open but with default documents.

If I look at the .groupy files (under AppData/Roaming/Groupy) OwnerProcess and Target are identical, but if I my understanding is correct Target should be the file I want opened with that particular app .

Can anyone explain what I'm doing wrong? I've included a test Groupy file if thats of any help.......

[Group]

GroupCount=2

GroupLeft=12

GroupTop=38

GroupRight=1920

GroupBottom=874

GroupMax=0

Locked=0

[GroupyEntry1]

OwnerProcess=C:\Program Files\SoftMaker Office 2018\TextMaker.exe

NewTabName=

RunElevated=0

NoPatternMatching=0

CommandLine=

WorkingDirectory=C:\Program Files\SoftMaker Office 2018

Target=C:\Program Files\SoftMaker Office 2018\TextMaker.exe

MatchingClass=tmwMdiFrame

[GroupyEntry2]

OwnerProcess=C:\Program Files\CherryTree\mingw64\bin\cherrytree.exe

NewTabName=

RunElevated=0

NoPatternMatching=0

CommandLine=

WorkingDirectory=C:\Program Files\CherryTree\mingw64\bin

Target=C:\Program Files\CherryTree\mingw64\bin\cherrytree.exe

MatchingClass=gdkWindowToplevel

Thanks for any help.

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Hello,
Sorry to hear you are having issues. Need to know more on your system.

Windows version, please use Winver.exe for full Windows version numbers.
Groupy version installed.

Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant.

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Burbles raises a good point though. Is there an instruction manual for Groupy (either official, or someone on the internet who is really knowledgeable who writes about Groupy somewhat extensively?)

I, for one, am certain I'm vastly underutilizing how it can change my work life, all for a lack of a true understanding of how I can better exploit it.

Does anyone have knowledge of such a resource?

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Island Dog

Join Date 06/2003

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There's not a technical manual, but we do have some blogs and guides on how Groupy is used. They can be found in the software wiki here.

Groupy - Stardock Software - Official Wiki

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Sorry about that, thought of this just after I'd gone to bed.

Windows 10

Microsoft Windows Version 2004 (OS Build 19041.746)

Groupy Version 1.46

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Do people think it would be worthwhile linking to that in the software??

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Hello burbles,

I have try textmaker and cherrytree and it look like the saved group does not save the target files correctly. I have forward your problem/question to Stardock Support Team for their assistance. Please keep an eye on this thread for any updates. We appreciate your feedback and patience.

Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant

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Thanks Basj,

I played with the Groupy file and added the correct filename to the Target= settings, but then the apps opened the files correctly, but as two separate apps! I then regrouped the apps by moving them on top of one another, and resaved the groupy file, only for the groupy file to act completely differently!

I've looked through the forums a bit more and found that we (the purchasers) seem to be the testers for Groupy software (ie we have to report a problem and identify which software seems to cause a problem, hoping that a fix is released quickly with the next release). I'm assuming from this that there isn't a 'standard' way via Windows 10 to identify the filename being worked on, with the associated application.

How often do problems occur? How often do releases occur? If I have an application that I need to use now for a project - I don't think I can wait two weeks for a new release! Groupy is certainly an interesting piece of software, but not possibly as universal as I'd believed. Is there a list of software that Groupy does work with? This would at least tell me whether the applications I typically use will work with Groupy.

Thanks,

Bruce

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Groupy can only remember documents opened if the application exposes a way to link the application window to the file that is open. This is limited to explorer windows, word documents, excel documents, power point documents and in applications where the document is opened via the command line to the application (say opening a .txt file in notepad by double clicking on the document in explorer).

Applications which do not have a way to detect what document is open in them can be grouped but they will not reopen the document as there is no information for them. The only information Groupy can obtain is the application to launch and the command line used to launch that application.

With regards to your editing, you would need to add the document as part of the command line parameter in the groupy file rather than the target.

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Thanks Neil,

This gives me far more reassurance about being able to consistently use Groupy, its just knowing how Groupy works.

(Again to Stardock - a manual may be useful!!)

"in applications where the document is opened via the command line to the application (say opening a .txt file in notepad by double clicking on the document in explorer)."

I'm not that knowledgeable about how windows works, but is that what File Associations actually does? Certainly almost all of the applications I use can be opened directly using Windows Explorer so I'll just have to find out if I can (how to) call "application.exe --help" in a command line/terminal and hope that the programmers have included some info, or does everyone use -f for filename?

ie .I'm assuming the call becomes "application.exe -f filename_to_open"

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