Start10 v1.7 This application could prevent Chrome from working properly

Last night I installed Start10 1.7. Now with Chrome Canary Version 76.0.3778.0 (Official Build) canary (64-bit) I now get this error "This application could prevent Chrome from working properly." The previous release of Start10 did NOT present an issue with Chrome Canary. Following are two images regarding the issue.

Start10 error with Chrome Canary

Start10 about

 

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Reply #1 Top

Hello,

I have forwarded your report to the Stardock support team for their review and recommendations.

Please keep an eye on this thread for any updates.

We really do appreciate your feedback, thanks.

AzDude
Stardock Community Assistant

Reply #2 Top

Ignore it.

If Chrome crashes it instantly blames anything that's not theirs loaded next time it loads.  There are threads on the internet with chrome suggesting the removal of anti virus apps, mouse drivers etc.

The same would show in that situation with Start10 1.6.

Reply #3 Top

Is there a fix for this in the works? Chrome has been really buggy - crashes, freezes. I only have Start 10 and Windowblinds in memory.

 

Incompatibilities

Reply #4 Top

Hello,
Sorry to hear you are having issues. But from what I know its not Stardock issues to fix.  You can always try other browsers.

 

Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant.

Reply #5 Top

Quoting basj, reply 4

its not Stardock issues to fix
End of basj's quote

Whose issue is it to fix? Are you suggesting it's an issue with Windows? Chrome? No problems with any other software on my system. Seems like it is their issue. Why the consistent incompatibilities with Chrome?

Reply #6 Top

Quoting nickrusso, reply 5

Whose issue is it to fix? Are you suggesting it's an issue with Windows? Chrome? No problems with any other software on my system. Seems like it is their issue. Why the consistent incompatibilities with Chrome?
End of nickrusso's quote

You can refer back to reply #2.  Neil knows his stuff....;)

Chrome is in danger of ending up like Netscape/Firefox .... a constant pain in the butt...;)

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Reply #7 Top

Wow. So I can't use either of the top two browsers, 80.47% market share between them. These are my two go-to browsers, and I'm not real happy with the choices that are left.

Usage share of desktop browsers

StatCounter    June 2019

Chrome

70.71%

Firefox

9.76%

IE

5.03%

Edge

4.50%

Safari

5.64%

Opera

2.45%

Others

1.91%1%

- Wikipedia

Reply #8 Top

Quoting nickrusso, reply 7

Wow. So I can't use either of the top two browsers, 80.47% market share between them. These are my two go-to browsers, and I'm not real happy with the choices that are left.
End of nickrusso's quote

You can use the browser, it is just if the browser crashes (regardless of cause), it will blame anything third party loaded at the time.  Note that it is loaded when you next load the browser, NOT what was loaded when the crash happens.

Basically it can be ignored.  If you are having crashing issues with Chrome then that's something else to look at IF they stop when one of those apps is not running, but that message does not mean those products are the cause.  That's why it lists everything, Chrome has no idea what caused your issue, it is just blaming everything but itself.

Reply #9 Top

Oddly, it doesn't blame anything but Stardock software. That's sure a puzzle...

Reply #10 Top

Quoting nickrusso, reply 9

Oddly, it doesn't blame anything but Stardock software. That's sure a puzzle...
End of nickrusso's quote

Malwarebytes::
https://forums.malwarebytes.com/topic/235468-this-application-could-prevent-chrome-from-working-properly/

Norton:
https://support.google.com/chrome/forum/AAAAP1KN0B0HDJM-zmKS7k/?hl=en&msgid=rWmKbSUXCwAJ&gpf=d/msg/chrome/HDJM-zmKS7k/rWmKbSUXCwAJ

Directory Opus:
https://resource.dopus.com/t/chrome-reports-directory-opus-this-application-could-prevent-chrome-from-working-properly/29304

TeamViewer:
https://community.teamviewer.com/t5/Previous-versions-EN/These-applications-could-prevent-Chrome-from-working-properly/td-p/42888

TortoiseSVN::
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/tortoisesvn/2h11s3fksI4/8E5PB650CAAJ

ESET:
https://superuser.com/questions/1337147/chrome-is-claiming-my-antivirus-is-incompatible-application

To name a few.

Sean Drohan
Stardock Support Manager

Reply #11 Top

I realize you say it's not your problem to solve.  However, could you not have the program run in protected memory?

In the least, it would guarantee it's not an issue.

Reply #12 Top

Quoting manager28956, reply 11

I realize you say it's not your problem to solve.  However, could you not have the program run in protected memory?

In the least, it would guarantee it's not an issue.


End of manager28956's quote

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Protected memory?

Reply #13 Top

Memory mapped out and isolated (protected), allocated specifically for programs or program functions. These areas of memory cannot be accessed by other programs.

Reply #14 Top

Quoting manager28956, reply 13

Memory mapped out and isolated (protected), allocated specifically for programs or program functions. These areas of memory cannot be accessed by other programs.
End of manager28956's quote

In Windows every process has its own protected memory space already.  Or at least protected unless something else wants to load a file into it which can be done using OS standard methods specifically designed to extend applications / add in new system functionality.

The issue here is Start10 runs inside Explorers memory space and thus has to load into that, to achieve that we have to set a hook which gets Start10 loaded into EVERY 64 bit process.  In anything other than explorer it does nothing and because of how memory pages are shared in the OS it basically uses no additional memory.

Apps like UltraMon and DisplayFusion which provide additional taskbars detect Start10 and enable support for it based on if the dll has loaded into their processes and so we cannot simply load in explorer and disable things from there.

It is worth noting that apparently Chrome would also detect shell extensions such as file icon handlers, right click handlers etc so even without that you would have the same issue with Chrome if you opened a file dialog in it and right clicked on an exe as the shell handler for Start10 would load too.

Ultimately the 'incompatible apps' in Chrome is flawed.  It works from an assumption that Chrome is perfect thus anything that's not from them must be a problem.  Google have long forgotten whose computer their app is running on I feel, something that Microsoft have also forgotten.

The funny thing is Google used to actively block any dlls that caused problems so if there was something causing a problem you can bet they would have already blocked it loading!  Personally this makes me wonder if there is another motive for this warning stuff.