The fact is, this thread shouldn't be here in the first place.
You have a problem with a Pixtudio related matter, then you should e-mail them ,instead of being pissed off and making a public post to try and have your opinion gratified.

Huh?... Me in the PenaltyBox?... What did i do?...

I think SkinMunity is a cool term for Skinning Community

Hear, Hear, Hippy! I responded to this one as well as a few others on this theme. This is a tight knit community!!! Very tight knit!!! This is not a complaint, so don't start with me! And being the community it is, anything negative, will be defended. Guess that's just the way it is. Some threads could be ignored, but where's the passion in that. Ya'll have a good evening.

davad...[you're in the correct thread, now]...

The problem with the posting/creation of this thread was/is that it is both a public forum, ]NOT related directly to Pixtudio], and it is not being communicated [privately] directly with Pixtudio.

Once it is in open forum, good or bad, it MUST expect responses of varying direction and/or tact.

Personally, my interpretation of the tone of the original post was somewhat sardonic at best and perhaps sarcastic at worst. Either end of that scale would have many people jumping to treetog's defense, and it's nothing to do with 'disagreeing with Stardock or Pixtudio', but perhaps a prominent respect for a popular and valued contributor to this [and many others] site and its community.

I'm not going to disect the semantics of argumentative interpretation but to say I didn't discern a great deal of 'tact' in either the method of communication or its wording.


And it doesn't curry any favours to say that you really admire someone's work...he's a great skinner...'but' he also has poor judgement doing what he has done....not when, to tell the truth, even IF [big 'if'] this person was actually the crappiest skinner on earth, I still know him as a polite, kind and generous human being who has done nothing to warrant this public 'diatribe'.

Last time I recall a similarly directed thread it was on Customize.org, culminating in many 'veteran' skinners departing there in disgust.

Since this IS a public forum, I'll PUBLICLY suggest that neophil78 could do worse than to PRIVATELY chat with Renato and mend any bridges/relations if 'damaged', and keep further 'discussion' personal and private, where it belongs...

Jafo....I certainly don't want to be seen as defending someone who attacked treetog. I was one of those skinners who left Custo in disgust after the attack on treetog that happened there. However, I see very little similarity in this "situation" and the one that happened then.

Not to get too picky with your response, but this site is directly related to Pixtudio, as their suites are available for sale here in the Stardock Store.

And finally...how can you classify this thread as a "diatribe" when not one person other than neophil has uttered one negative word about treetog. It would be a bit of a reach to even say that neophils comments were abusive, or disrespectful.

I've always respected your leadership qualities here jafo, so I don't want to "argue" with you, so this will be my last post regarding this. I don't want to be seen as prolonging this thread any longer than necessary, just making clear my points, and continuing my long battle against the wolf pack mentality that some people here have.

Thanks, Davad...
[However I prefer to see the 'wolf pack mentality' more as a close community protecting its own....it's funny how a choice of words describing exactly the same thing can be 'slanted' one way or another]...

/me goes in search of a 'Close Thread' button. I think this one's had its day...

oh no, it's chichi

plain and simple I agree with davad70....... BUT treetog annouced before he released pixtudle suite for sale, that he would in time release it for FREE to all those who could not afford to pay etc....

well ChiChi, guess you should have appeared earlier. that clears the situation

also agree with davad70 btw.

my interpretation was that the skin should have been updated and been available as an update to paid customers. Treetog is too kind (he always has been). I don't think Neophil was serious about the refund. Software is supposed to get worse as it gets older/outdated, not better.

Thanks for the updates Treetog - I don't think anybody who has seen your work has anything but good things to say. I hope the work you share so freely has and does return something good for you.