jecy99

Join Date 07/2012

Crazy things happened later game

this has some spoilers to how the game works.. If you don't want to know them.. stop reading..

So later game i was doing really well, had my clusters, and holding my borders, along with enough army to fight off any attack. I was still in the small ship stage of the game, but they were upgraded, and pretty strong.

now, new races started entering the picture..

Dread lords, showed, and would send out a single ship, and take down entire planets on one shot. After losing 3, i decided to just attack, verse protect.. My fleet of 12 ships, destoryed them no issue at all. I now had a planet with like 40 slots, all factories! I had to delete most to save my money, but i ended up with a awesome planet super easily. (is this normal? cause it feels a little messed up) Next time i would just send a fleet instantly and get a great world? feels like an exploit to me.

at this point lots of minor races started to fall, outside of a couple i protected, but then new minor races popped up on new planets. They felt a lot stronger than the others? I'm wondering if i should be trading more techs to the minors to help um stay more competitive?

i was really starting to flip planets, and basically i had a win very close at hand.. Suddenly a new race pops onto the scene, and i get a message.. they have taken over 16 planets and 8 of them were mine! I forget the name of them, but they had some sort of Big V for a symbol.

Basically they instantly took over half of my empire, and key planets all over which completely stopped my influence take over.. after building tons more bases to flip um back which relaly took hours, it basically seemed like there was no way they would ever flip, so i then spent another few hours to finally take over all those damn planets, and win by 75%.. Needless to say i was not in a good mood.

this was on challenging, and it has me wondering what happens at other difficulty levels, or if this is normal. Do these races always take over your planets like this? or was this a rare event?

another thing some of the races really did not play all that great.. i wonder if going up a few more difficulty slots might help this along..

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Yes, it is normal for the Dread Lords to build up the planet with full factories. If your 12 small ships could win against their defense, you were lucky, it should have been much harder to deserve the prize that is their planet.

I think you were struck by the jagged knife (mega) event. This is designed to basically turn over the table within the game. As a minor nation they completely ignore your influence and will never flip.

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The Jagged Knife produces a clear path to victory in many games, because you can invade them and gain techs and Planets that had belonged to other races w/o upsetting any other AIs, who had been weakened by the event.

I won enough times that way so that what i do now when I get that mega event is to reload a save from just before the event, and play on from there.

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Gaunathor

Join Date 04/2006

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this was on challenging, and it has me wondering what happens at other difficulty levels, or if this is normal.

It's actually pretty tame compared to some of my games. But then, I play with random events set to frequent, so it is not a good comparison.

Do these races always take over your planets like this? or was this a rare event?

As has been said, it's an event. Besides the Jagged Knife Mega Event, there are two more regular random events, the Fundamentalists and the I-League, which could have happened. However, even if the events happen in your game, there is still a chance, that they don't affect you.

another thing some of the races really did not play all that great.. i wonder if going up a few more difficulty slots might help this along..

Tough is the first difficulty where the AI is playing on equal footing with you. All difficulty levels after that will provide bonuses to the AI, but don't make it any smarter.

Still, there some bugs left in the game, that prevent the AI from playing as good as it could. If moving up to a higher difficulty doesn't provide satisfaction, then you could take a look at the fix mods in the Modding subforum. We modders tried our best to fix the remaining bugs, and make the AI more of a challenge.

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ahh i see, so these are what is known as mega events.. I guess now i know you can't flip their planets.. so yea it would of been pretty easy to take them back first.. though as luck would have it, my populations were struggling due to some virus killing people.. so when all was said in done, it cost me like 2/3's my population to take the planets i needed.. Yikes!

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Note that you can "turn off" mega events. Alternatively, do as I do, which is to leave them on but have auto-save on for every turn and when the Jagged Knife type event happens, simply reload from just before the event.

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that is good to know you can just reload, as the events are random..

that said, the event would not have been as bad, had i not spent hours trying to flip planets with influence. I should of just made ships and invaded to start.. they were a friendly lot, at least to me.. but with the amount of planets they flipped, there was no way i could win a culture game with out getting rid of most of the ones they took over. Basically the event was super bad timing. Perhaps that was by design.

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