Can it be done: If hero is in the city, city generates 1 influence/turn ?

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Other mechanics of having hero in the city without change.

 

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Reply #1 from Elemental Forums Top

I think this may be possible. A hero in a city reduces unrest in the city, maybe the same thing can be used to generate the influence while in the city.

Reply #2 from Elemental Forums Top


Well, it would certainly be nice if you could appoint Champions to do stuff in your various cities. Like "Governor", "Marshal", "Bailiff", "Archmage", etc...

For when you want to "retire" them without actually losing part of their usefulness. You know, kind of putting them out in the pasture.

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Reply #3 from Elemental Forums Top

Yes it can be done, but it is more complicated than just adding a normal resource production running all the time, such as merchant that gives you gildar. The reason is that influence is by nature a global resource, so you can't just produce it all the time.

What we need to do is create an intermediary resource and produce that. The intermediary resource will be local instead of global, so it will only function when you are in a city. Then we turn the intermediary resource into real influence using some XML magic.

Here is some sample XML that adds +1 Influence when in a city if the character has the Attunement trait.

<?xml version="1.0"?>
<Container>
  <AbilityBonus InternalName="AttunementAbility">
    <AbilityBonusOption InternalName="Attunement">
      <GameModifier>
        <ModType>Resource</ModType>
        <Attribute>FakeInfluence</Attribute>
        <Value>1</Value>
        <Provides>+1 Influence per turn if stationed in a city</Provides>
      </GameModifier>
    </AbilityBonusOption>
  </AbilityBonus>
  <ResourceType InternalName="FakeInfluence">
    <DisplayName>Growth</DisplayName>
    <Description>Growth is the amount your population increases each season.</Description>
    <Type>FakeInfluence</Type>
    <IconColor>0,0,0</IconColor>
    <Icon>Gfx//Icons//Prestige_Icon.png</Icon>
    <ClothIcon>gfx\\TacticalIcons\\MetalOre_1.png</ClothIcon>
    <HideInHiergamenon>1</HideInHiergamenon>
    <ModelColor>0,0,0</ModelColor>
    <Worth>1</Worth>
    <Global>0</Global>
    <Rarity>0.0</Rarity>
    <Shared>0</Shared>
    <Stored>0</Stored>
    <TradedByCaravans>0</TradedByCaravans>
    <Medallions InternalName="Prestige_Res_Medallions">
      <All>Res_Ores_Plains.png</All>
    </Medallions>
  </ResourceType>
  <CityResourceEffectDef InternalName="FakeInfluenceToRealInfluence">
    <InputResource>FakeInfluence</InputResource>
    <OutputResource>DiplomaticCapital</OutputResource>
    <ResourceForMultiplierOnInput>FakeInfluenceToRealInfluence</ResourceForMultiplierOnInput>
    <EffectType>Harvest</EffectType>
  </CityResourceEffectDef>
  <PlayerAbilityType InternalName="A_Additive_FakeInfluenceToRealInfluence">
    <DisplayName>Base Research Per Population</DisplayName>
    <Description>How much research each unit of population produces in a city.</Description>
    <Icon>Icon_Level.png</Icon>
    <DefaultValue>1</DefaultValue>
  </PlayerAbilityType>
  <ResourceType InternalName="FakeInfluenceToRealInfluence">
    <DisplayName>Research Per Population</DisplayName>
    <Description>Amount of research each unit of population produces.</Description>
    <Type>FakeInfluenceToRealInfluence</Type>
    <IconColor>0,0,0</IconColor>
    <!--<Icon>Gfx//Icons//dude_icon.png</Icon>-->
    <Icon>Gfx//Icons//Icon_Population.png</Icon>
    <HideInHiergamenon>1</HideInHiergamenon>
    <ModelColor>0,0,0</ModelColor>
    <Worth>0</Worth>
    <Global>0</Global>
    <Stored>0</Stored>
    <Rarity>0.0</Rarity>
    <Shared>0</Shared>
    <TradedByCaravans>0</TradedByCaravans>
    <ShownInGlobalDisplay>0</ShownInGlobalDisplay>
    <Medallions InternalName="Population_Res_Medallions">
      <All>Res_Ores_Plains.png</All>
    </Medallions>
  </ResourceType>
</Container>
End of quote

I have highlighted some important bits above in case you want to try to understand it.

 

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Reply #4 from Elemental Forums Top

Interesting. Could something like this be used to give a Champion a small amount of EXP only when they are stationed in a city? 

Reply #5 from Elemental Forums Top

No, this really is just a clever way to use resource production.

Reply #6 from Elemental Forums Top

Quoting jshores, reply 5
Interesting. Could something like this be used to give a Champion a small amount of EXP only when they are stationed in a city? 
End of jshores's quote

There's no need for this, just copy the Adventurer's Guild bonus and add it into the city's base.

Reply #7 from Elemental Forums Top

Quoting Kalin, reply 7

Quoting jshores, reply 5Interesting. Could something like this be used to give a Champion a small amount of EXP only when they are stationed in a city? 

There's no need for this, just copy the Adventurer's Guild bonus and add it into the city's base.
End of Kalin's quote

Wow, you know what , that's a really good idea -- I wonder if you could mod this in for cities, but it would only apply to champs who had path of the governor... that's worth looking into...

Reply #8 from Elemental Forums Top

Quoting Kalin, reply 7

Quoting jshores, reply 5Interesting. Could something like this be used to give a Champion a small amount of EXP only when they are stationed in a city? 

There's no need for this, just copy the Adventurer's Guild bonus and add it into the city's base.
End of Kalin's quote

 

Well, I only want it to work for certain paths geared more towards administration than adventuring. 

Reply #9 from Elemental Forums Top

I don't think there's a way to require traits, so unless there's some roundabout way that I haven't explored, I'm pretty sure that the answer to that would be a no.

The only thing I can think of is to do a mix solution, where path of governor would give 1xp per turn, and being in a city would also give 1xp per turn, then you would have a governor in a city leveling at a semi decent rate, where other heroes aren't as great.

Reply #10 from Elemental Forums Top

Quoting Kalin, reply 10
I don't think there's a way to require traits, so unless there's some roundabout way that I haven't explored, I'm pretty sure that the answer to that would be a no.

The only thing I can think of is to do a mix solution, where path of governor would give 1xp per turn, and being in a city would also give 1xp per turn, then you would have a governor in a city leveling at a semi decent rate, where other heroes aren't as great.
End of Kalin's quote

 

Yeah,

That was my original plan, but I would much rather the administrator only get the exp when they were in a city. The main reason, I don't want a strong army babysitting one of my admins while they get their exp bonus plus the exp from combat. I guess I can live with it though, since the trade off would be that they are not in a city benefiting the city.