AI fleet composition broken with Rebellion?

AIs building only capital ships and their titan in beta 2?

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I've put in a few hours now playing around with beta 2 and there appears to be an issue with AIs either building a very small fleet and any MANY defense structures or building nothing but capital ships and their titan with no frigates.  

 

I suspect the AI fleet composition is taking a back seat during this beta but the current state of things makes it very difficult to test anything and even harder to test balance now that the Advent have been added.  At first I thought this issue was related to the AIs not having enough resources to research, build their defenses, and then also build their fleets.   To test that theory out I tried a few games on the hardest skill level where the AI cheats like crazy and the AIs still never built fleets like they did in diplomacy.  Once again some built a few frigates but many of them built only capital ships and their titan.

 

Anyone else noticed this?  Is this expected AI behavior during the beta?

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Reply #1 from Sins Forums Top

building mostly/only capital ships has been mentioned on the forums before. My guess is that the many defensive structures occur when you randomly get a fortifier AI.

Try playing a bunch of games with the Aggressive AI and see if you still see the defensive layout

Reply #2 from Sins Forums Top

I've noticed the same thing and am about to play a game against 2 aggressive AI's to see if that makes a difference.

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Reply #3 from Sins Forums Top

I played a custom map of mine. I was TEC Loyalists against TEC Rebels. The Rebels had lots of caps, the titan and lots of frigates/cruisers/corvetters. I never managed to break through...

Sure, that can also be fail on my part, but still :D 

Reply #4 from Sins Forums Top

I've noticed the same only capital ships and no star bass at all except TEC Loyalists

Reply #5 from Sins Forums Top

I think they gave them cap ship and free level up priority because frigates are just cannon fooder and lvl your titans way to quick

They do start building frigates once you push them against the wall.

Reply #6 from Sins Forums Top

I've tried a few more games, this time vs only aggressive AIs.  I'm still getting similar results though, they just don't build the fleets they use to in Diplomacy.  The last game was with version .79 of the beta.

After checking the stats screen (quitting the game at various intervals) I can see that I have anywhere from 3 to 4 times the frigates on the field as each of the AIs.  This is with only upgrading to the second fleet size 45min - 75 min into the game.

At this point I assume the AI's normal aggressive behavior that they had in Diplomacy has either been severely toned down for the beta or the devs just haven't gotten to fixing it for Rebellion.  

Given how much the AI cheats at the highest difficulty setting it does leave me wondering what in the world it's spending all of it's resources on.  I have noticed I'm always dead last in research.  Perhaps the AI is placing research at a much higher priority than it should and wasting it's resources there before it even has a fleet?