Given that they're already unstoppable death machines (especially the Ankylon, god damn thing just won't die,) I'm a bit wary of giving them even more stopping power.

True, Titans right now are powerful for when you get them.  However, I was thinking of a late game situation with massive frigate/cruiser swarms when I came up with my ideas.

Prehaps move all the techs to max military lab level?  Or make the most powerful ones require max labs of both kinds?  Reducing current stats and requiring research to get them back is also a good suggeston. 

Overall, I think Titans need to be able to deal with late game units swarms without being too powerful early game.  Research seemed like the best way to do that.


I think that prehaps anti-Titan research for capital ships would make a good counter to late game Titans.  Tians kill cruiser/frigate swarms which can kill capitals via mass focus fire and capitals in turn can kill Titans.  The best way to do this would be giving Titans more damage and protection vs Frigates/Cruiser along with targeting upgrade to deal with the massive numbers of them.

From reading the forums, I saw the idea of letting anti-Structure ships target Titans.  That does sound like a good idea except for the problem of the Vasari.  My thought for that would be to let the Vasari starbase anti-structure weapons deal damage to Titans as though they were structures.


In my inital post I had 2 anti-Titan upgrades for Capitals.  Having given it more thought, here are some more to make Capitals stronger vs Titans.

4 Labs:
Capital Long Range Scanner: All with gravity wells with enemy Titans within 1 jump of a capital ship you control are marked.

5 Labs:
Battledata Review:  Enemy Titans give double experience when killed.

6 Labs:
Anti-Titan Manuvering(2 levels)(Used to be 7 labs above): Reduces Titan damage to capitals by 5%.

7 Labs:
Anti-Titan Combat Tactics(4 levels)(used to be 8 labs above): Capitals ignore 5% of Titan shield mitigation( or just bonus damage vs Titans).

8 Labs:
Advanced Anti-Titan Manuvering(2 levels): Reduces Titan damage to capitals by 5%.  Requires level 2 Anti-Titan Manuvering.

 Anti-Titan Assault Tactics: Capitals do not increase Titan shield mitigation when attacking.

One last idea: What about giving Titans only one ability point per level and requiring research to get the rest?  This would also help a bit with the problem of waiting until late game to build your first Titan and having a level 1 Titan against large fleets and upgraded starbases.