In Memory of Sins101

Today Feb 23, 2012 marks 3 years since the Sins101 was banned for life from the ICO severs. Once again I make another post to remember his unjust ban. Some say he was fairly purged from the community, I say that some chat spamming in the ICO lobby does not merit such a harsh punishment.

To the newer players here is a quick  summary of what happened four years ago.

Around  Feb 22, 23, 2009 the players Sins101 started spamming the ICO lobby. He spammed the usual batter spewed by someone fed up with the constant crashes, desynchronized error, and random disconnects from games that were so rampant at the time. Some players (too stupid to use the "/ignore" command) came here to the forums to bitch and moan about Sins101. The mods lay the banhammer on his account and he was never to be seen or heard from again.

I was a really active member of the SoaSE community prior to his banning. I came to realize that anyone could be banned and loose his account for something as insignificant as pissing off some precious snowflakes. Prior to this event I was sure this was one of the best on line game communities out there. I used to play with JBaum, REDHOT, DirtySanchez,(not Howdidudothat, he is an idiot) and had lots of fun on 3v3 matches, but given the unjust action taken by the mods I could not bring myself to purchase the Diplomacy expansion. It is a real shame since the new Rebellion update looks awesome. I still play Entrenchment 1v1 with my friend on a regular basis but I won't get Rebellion out of principle.

 

Here are some of the original thread regarding his ban:

https://forums.sinsofasolarempire.com/340873

 

R.I.P. Sins101 You won't be forgotten.

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Reply #1 Top

Lmao. :rofl:

From Mr. Fraser.

I have the logs from his spamming. It wasn't just "lulz". It was long periods of insanity and days of people reporting his behavior and I also experienced it myself while trying to test Entrenchment. It shouldn't take a warning from someone to know that this is unacceptable behavior. What kind of appeal could possibly be made? My cat sat on the keyboard and wouldn't get off? No, it was pure malice.

How is the community supposed to grow when there are people ruining the experience for them as soon as they step into the lobby and try to get a game going?

Entire groups of people ,who also paid for the game, were having their experience marred by a single individual. Should I value the dollars they paid less than his?

If he wasn't satisifed with his purchase he could have dealt with it like a civilized human being, not an ignorant, immature brat with a undeserved sense of entitlement and the kind of boldness than only appears behind the anonymity of the internet. He could have made his case on the forums, support@ironcladgames.com, support@stardock.com or voted against us by not purchasing any of our future products. Which is fine with me because, to be honest, I don't want his money. Now let me explain why - and its not just because he affects the experience of our well behaved customers.

When we decided to relax our DRM policy (a couple examples: no DRM on the DVD and allowing multiple people to play on a LAN with one copy) it was based on the fact that DRM hinders customers people who paid for the game. We were willing to bet that we would gain more by treating them like honest and decent people and that there enough of this type of people to make a satisfactory profit which would allow us to continue to make games. The loss of one or even thousands of dishonest or indecent people won't make me lose any sleep and won't affect Ironclad's bottom line because either A.) they didn't pay for the game in the first place or B.) the majority of our customers don't fall into this category.

So spread the word. If you don't behave like a civilized human being you will banned permanently. I don't have time to be dealing with this kind of behavior so I will simply query your IP and hit the ban button. We have a team of 11 people and I'm sure the majority of you would prefer us to be developing fixes and new content than dealing with this kind of foolishness. So yes, if you want Ironclad to devote more resources to improving online play or anything else, don't behave like this. Now let's move onto a somewhat related topic:

We are also nearly 100% sure that this same individual was also using fake cd numbers to generate multiple accounts which is obviously not condoned by the EULA and is suggestive of illegal behavior that we may find should we investigate further. This could have much more serious repercussions for him than a simple banning. I know how he does it and so do many others but it has not been changed because it only hinders valid customers. This is all in line with our policies on DRM. If this keeps up we'll be forced to increase security measures and bring out the ban stick on a whole lot more people. All it takes is for me to flick a switch and thousands of people will lose their accounts. The only reason I haven't done so so far was because most of them are behaving themselves and helping to keep the multiplayer community at decent levels. I know your dirty little secret and I've known it for a long time because it was a deliberate choice and just because I refuse to act on it now, it doesn't mean I won't in the future. It's my hope that policies like this will help convince some of you to make the right choice in the end.

Don't let me down and don't force my hand on this. Behave.

End of quote

Reply #2 Top

Was it simply to hard to use the "/ignore sins101" command and move on?

Reply #3 Top

Quoting SnoopDaggo, reply 2
Was it simply to hard to use the "/ignore sins101" command and move on?
End of SnoopDaggo's quote

 

Was it too hard for someone not to be an asshat?

 

EDIT:

I was there since the beginning.  I suffered through enough shit from players like him and others (including impersonation attempts on ICO and very rude interruptions when trying to help others etc. etc. etc.)


Just because some fool never learned impulse-control doesn't mean I a paying customer should ever have to put with the kind of crap myself (and many others) did. Certainly before any responsiblity even could be assigned to others in 'ignoring' someone's bad behaviour they themselves should be (and finally were) held accountable for the consequences of their actions and behaviour.

I'm looking forward to the steamworks-integration of Rebellion if for no other reason than it will hopefully make the smurfing epidemic evidenced in SINS a moot point and bring some much needed 'accountability' to the online component of SINS.

 

Reply #4 Top

Quoting GoaFan77, reply 1
We are also nearly 100% sure that this same individual was also using fake cd numbers to generate multiple accounts which is obviously not condoned by the EULA and is suggestive of illegal behavior that we may find should we investigate further.
End of GoaFan77's quote

Out of curiosity, what exactly does this mean?  Like, he had multiple installations?  Or is this something more devious than that?  A lot of people have multiple installations, and it is not always because someone is just trying to get a free game....

And then there's this...

"We also added some other surprises for them that I'm sure they won't find so funny."

~Stardock

So I have to ask....what surprises might we be talking about?

Reply #5 Top

Quoting Seleuceia, reply 4
Out of curiosity, what exactly does this mean? Like, he had multiple installations? Or is this something more devious than that? A lot of people have multiple installations, and it is not always because someone is just trying to get a free game....
End of Seleuceia's quote

He probably hacked CD keys.

But that happened 3 years ago, which is another reason why its hilarious this guy still cares and thinks people will still remember that guy.

Reply #6 Top

One wonders if they are not the same guy.  ;)

Reply #7 Top

Quoting Sinperium, reply 6
One wonders if they are not the same guy.
End of Sinperium's quote

I think you're the last person that should be getting people to think about forum smurfs. ;P

Reply #8 Top

Quoting GoaFan77, reply 7

I think you're the last person that should be getting people to think about forum smurfs.
End of GoaFan77's quote

Man, I have no idea what you're talking about.

Reply #9 Top

Sins101 who? :thumbsdown:

 

Meh, don't care.  He got what he deserved.

Reply #10 Top

Sinperium...worldstrider...they both have "SIER" hidden in them!  Coincidence?  I THINK NOT....

Reply #11 Top

I will post in a shitty thread in his honor.

 

Done and done

Reply #12 Top

Quoting Sinperium, reply 6
One wonders if they are not the same guy. 
End of Sinperium's quote

 

Many people are saying that I'm the same guy which is completely false.

Many others are saying that he hacked CD Keys. If he "hacked" many CD keys he could have just used one of the many he had and continue spaming. He was banned once for life that was the end of him.

 

 

 

 

Reply #13 Top

Or that's what you want us to think.

Clever...either way.

Reply #14 Top

:troll:

Keep trolling trolling trolling trolling trolling trolling...

:troll:

Reply #15 Top

Isn't the OP a troll?  We just wanted to join in.  Woot!

What's funny is when you look at the linked Op everyone there is applauding his ban.  Heh Heh.

Reply #16 Top

So the OP pretty much said:

 

Reply #17 Top

Yep.

Reply #18 Top

Quoting SemazRalan, reply 16
So the OP pretty much said:



 
End of SemazRalan's quote

 

LOL never saw that before :P

Reply #19 Top

anybody using the word "lulz" in seriousness should be repeatedly banned from every online service they can possibly access

Reply #20 Top

SnoopDaggo i think stardoc peeps are the most tolerant devs in the world.

If he spamm lobby he deserve it.

buy him a flower and move on

Reply #21 Top

Rest in pieces.