Ok I bought the game now I hope brad comes through with his promise!

Hi

Well I finaly bought the game after trying the pirate vers 1.05 on the promise that things will get better!

I updated to 1.07 and do find while that the game runs much better but it's still not as fun as mom :(

Magic has to be rewoked the sytem is very bland!

AI has to be improved nut rather then just  make it better at fighting give the some character.

All in all that is what I miss about this game and Galactic CIV suffered the same thin the races ai ect  had no character they were all the same.

Reacted in ths same way did the exect same builds ect!

The fun thing  about mom & the moos was the ai would be stupid some times but they followed thier charactes same with SMAC.

Please put some personality in your AI would make this game alot more fun!

I Hope you follow your promise to make this game more mom like now that you fixed the technical problems.

 

 

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Reply #1 Top

The only thing that should be more like MoM is the magic. Everything else should be better.

Pirate scum.

Reply #2 Top


Hi

Well I finaly bought the game after trying the pirate vers 1.05 on the promise that things will get better!

I updated to 1.07 and do find while that the game runs much better but it's still not as fun as mom

Magic has to be rewoked the sytem is very bland!

AI has to be improved nut rather then just  make it better at fighting give the some character.

All in all that is what I miss about this game and Galactic CIV suffered the same thin the races ai ect  had no character they were all the same.

Reacted in ths same way did the exect same builds ect!

The fun thing  about mom & the moos was the ai would be stupid some times but they followed thier charactes same with SMAC.

Please put some personality in your AI would make this game alot more fun!

I Hope you follow your promise to make this game more mom like now that you fixed the technical problems.

 

 

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wow way to do some research before posting..all of this has been adressed already....and seeing as how you brought up playing a pirated copy...you will be lucky to not be banned...

Reply #3 Top

I always Pirate a game before I buy it for 2 reasons

1 Ihave been burnt too many times by shit in wrapped in gold.

2. As in the case with this game was not avaliable in the store till this week.

I always buy the game if I find it worthy like this game.

Although I am going on trusting stardock's name rather then the game it self it is defenily not finshed !

Brad & company does comes through.

As far as restating the Wish this game was more mom like I am not a shamed of wanting the best of mom in this game!

 

Reply #4 Top

 There is never any reason to Pirate a game. All you are doing is reasoning being a Thief.

 As for the AI in MoM they all did the same thing. Say hi, get mad for no reason, then attack in small waves of Ranged attackers and then every now and them a large group of melee. Most people agree the AI sucked, but the options and Magic is what made it fun.

Reply #5 Top

There is never any reason to Pirate a game. All you are doing is reasoning being a Thief.
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QFT

Reply #6 Top

Well at least he bought it, but still its like taking cloths out of a store and wearing them for a few days before paying the store and that is currently not socially acceptable.

Reply #7 Top

Man, do you anti piracy people think you're warriors of the light or something? Get over yourselves. "Socially acceptable"? pfffffffffft

Reply #8 Top

Nope I am no warrior of light or whatever but Piracy is STEALING there is NO way around that fact.

Reply #9 Top

Lots of things are stealing. The world isn't a perfect place now is it? Signed, a thief.

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Quoting Polistes, reply 6
Well at least he bought it, but still its like taking cloths out of a store and wearing them for a few days before paying the store and that is currently not socially acceptable.
End of Polistes's quote

Well if 9 out of 10 fell appart the first time you wash them and the store wont give you a refund I want to try them first.

Anyway I don't want to get into the bad pirate  topic...I just stated the game was worth buying ;)

As far as the ai goes I am not asking for smart ai I am asking for ones with character!

In mom they did not get mad at you for no reason.

If you were a diferent spell type they would not like you.

They also had thier own way of doing things that fit with thier nature...the ones with death spells woul make undead armys the chaotic ones would cast volcanos ....the good ones would buff thier troops.

I admit it was not the smartest ai but you knew the evil guy could not be trusted but the good nature one could unless you betrayed them first.

Reply #11 Top

Hey you bought the game in the end so I guess thats all that matters in the long run. :)

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Lots of things are stealing. The world isn't a perfect place now is it? Signed, a thief.

 

And I see you're advertising yourself as one of the folks who is NOT going to try to make the world a better place.  Awesome. 

Negative comments about piracy are valid.

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Quoting Polistes, reply 8
Nope I am no warrior of light or whatever but Piracy is STEALING there is NO way around that fact.
End of Polistes's quote

 

This. I'm sure these people download movies and music illegally as well. WTG idiots. As soon as people could steal without smashing a store window - they did.

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and seeing as how you brought up playing a pirated copy...you will be lucky to not be banned...
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If he's bought the game now, it really doesn't matter what he did previously. That doesn't mean we like it, but it's in the past.

Reply #15 Top

i personally wouldn't call it "stealing" but i do think its an unacceptable practice that only has one path.  and thats no more games.  i like games, so you gotta support the hobby.

Reply #16 Top

Well, I can't say there's anything much I like about the game right now. An unexhaustive list of stuff-that-bugs-me, in no particular order:

Graphics: I love [...], but not the execution. That's going to be a recurring theme in this post. In this case, it's the art direction I love. That the models are terribly blocky is perhaps not the most realistic complaint. I do realise there's both technical & monetary limits to what's possible. However, the cloth map would have been much more appealing if it had terrain colours, and the 3D units & placeables are much too similar and difficult to identify/differentiate while playing. I'm hoping Stardock will fix the former and release tools facilitate fan-efforts to fix the latter.

Resources/Production: I didn't think I would, but I actually do like the pooled resources idea. I just don't like the extreme it's been taken to. To please me, resources need to be a tangible part of the gameworld. Stuff that generates resources have to be vulnerable, production have to involve local production chains, and pooling has to involve stuff existing & being moved around physically in the gameworld. It doesn't have to involve micromanagement at all, it just has to feel like

City Building: Physically building stuff on the map is a cool idea, but the execution is such that it has no gameplay significance at all right now. All it does is decrease usability in the 3D view, because the 3D building graphics are difficult to identify/differentiate. I would have loved to build chasm-spanning cities, building cities vertically, or for it to be practical and advantageous to wall off areas of the map by building chains of cities. But perhaps some or all of those things will be possible, eventually.

Interface: This thread lists my complaints & wishes for the interface in more exhaustive detail than I ever could. Man, I hope the devs consider that whole post their next milestone.

Ability/Stat/Combat/Magic Mechanics & Balance: The game mechanics involved in- and the total lack of balance of these things have given me an unshakable faith in three things. One is that no Elemental designer played the game for any amount of time before release. The other is that whomever that or those designers are, nobody in all of time and space could have done a worse job. The third is that if that or those persons continue to work in that capacity on Elemental, it will never be a good game. Here's one thread listing some of the problems and some potential solutions. There are many, many, many such threads. Unsurprisingly.

Dynasties: Yet another "sounds cool, but isn't" feature. Currently they're pointless, but that's just because diplomacy is pointless, which is because the ability/stat/combat/magic mechanics & balance are all messed up. In theory they'd at least have a diplomatic use. The problem - to me - is that it isn't enough. I'd like dynasties to actually be dynasties, with heirs, bastards & so on. Like the rest of my complaints, I'm very far from alone with them, and there are plenty of threads suggesting improvements. Personally I'd like to suggest ripping off some Paradox games.

Unfortunately - as mentioned - these aren't my only complaints.

Quoting nobalkain, reply 4
 There is never any reason to Pirate a game. All you are doing is reasoning being a Thief.
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Customers are generally given the option to try out goods (clothes included, Polistes) of highly variable/questionable/unpredictable quality before they're asked to pay for it. Why should games be exempt?

If you don't want people to have a perfectly legit excuse for pirating your stuff, release a demo that provides an accurate impression of the gameplay and technical quality of the game. And do it a week or two before the full game's release date.

Not everyone is fortunate enough to live in a country where they have a legal right to a full refund for a minimum of 14 days after the purchase date, nor can everyone afford to buy entertainment that fails to entertain.