more options for troops

non-value customization options

i dont know to what extent things will changes for the final game... but i'd like to have more options to design / customize my troops - not necessarily options that actually differ in values but just look...

right now there are very few design options for clothing (which look all pretty much the same), non for armor (except the different armor levels) and hardly any for weapons...

i'd like to have at least 5 options per armor class, including the possibility to change colour / colour parts...furthermore i'd like to be abe to modify parts of the armor /shields - example

you have 2 different shield quaility - wood / metal

3 different forms - buckler / kyte / tower (or whatever)

and then you can choose the colour and the symbol you want on the shield (from a list with different optins including icons, mabe spikes out of the shield, skulls nailed onto the shield etc..)

same with armor - with these type of roman armors in mind that often have some kind of adornment on them like a lion or something - i'd like to have such options for armors as well, besides lets say 5-6 different basic skins for each armor type...

same goes for helmets - you could take a few base helmet forms and then enable options for different kind of feathers, horns, visors etc...

same goes for weapons - i like to have different -non value- options for the same - e.g. you have 1h weapon class xy that gives you +4 attack +1/2 speed - and then you can choose between 10 different opions that have the same value but look different (different swords, sabers, axes, maces, hammers, flails etc. etc.)

and important point is that these customizabe options should not just be like 5 different swords that basically have the same art style, the different options should represend different "heritages" like swords that look like a knights, like a undeads with skulls and a twisted blade, like a barbarian's roasty, brute with blood on it etc. etc....

regarding values, i'd also like to get different value options for the same lvl of items - for example if you divide things into level then i want to be able to build a high level leather armor that can compete with a high level plate armor - just in a different fashion, therefore there is no "best gear" - everything has pros and cons - like plate armor make you slower etc... that is partially incorporated now but i'd like to see more of that and maybe have more then 1 value option per lvl to give some more strategic depth...

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Reply #1 Top

They said that most cosmetics will not be seen until release but make a list of what you would like, that is always helpful.

Personally I think the helmets are lacking in style but we will just have to wait and see.

Reply #2 Top

yeah i was thinking of a list, but its kind of difficult to describe different artstyles...i would rather have to draw it or look for picutes... i not only want 1 longsword but several different looking options for it...as for every other weapon, armor, helmets etc... as for helmets its pretty simple, take a base helmet and different options for feathers, visors, horns, or other kind of staff you can add to the helmets that gives you a lot of opions...

Reply #3 Top

for example - the following examples can all be considered "full plate armor" but look all very different, also the helmets - i could find 100 more examples...

 

http://www.kismeta.com/diGrasse/Costume/armorhussar4.jpg

http://i.somethingawful.com/u/petey/comedygoldmine/2009/superweapons/armor.jpg

http://www.conanmmorpg.com/media/screenshots/gear/aoc-gear-armor-heavy-plate-female.jpg

http://www.cityofheroes.com/images/issue12/costumes_i12_roman001_full.jpg

http://community.ageofconan.com/conan/frontend/files/CONTENT/concept21.jpg

http://warhammeronlinenews.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/slaurith.jpg

http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs41/f/2009/050/d/3/Blood_Knight2_by_ZivCG.jpg

http://www.millenium.org/upload/deathknight_tier8_male.jpg

http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/home/images/armiesofWAR/greenskins/BlackOrc/blackorc-look-02.jpg

http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/home/images/armiesofWAR/greenskins/BlackOrc/blackorc-look-03.jpg

http://www.diablo3fansite.com/heroes/barbarian.png

http://www.warwiki.de/wiki/images/thumb/300px-Tyrion.jpg

http://aoc.gamona.de/images/screenshots/382_fullsize.jpg

 

 

Reply #4 Top

i also like different "value" options on the same lvl, for example lvl xy you can now equip rather a bastard sword, a pike, a battle hammer, a 2h axe or a flail but non is better then the oter they are all lets say lvl 4 weapons that have different bonus and malus e.g.

bastard sword gives you +4 att +1/2 speed

a pike gives you +3 att +1def -1/2 speed and a bonus against mounted troops

a hammer gives you + 3 attack and a chance to ignore enemy defense

a 2h axe could hit multiple oponents

a flail could stun oponents

 

etc etc etc - what i like to have are differnet option with the same overall value, i don't like that well the best option at that lvl is the xy weapon cause it does the most damage but rather different options all with their pro's and con's

Reply #5 Top

helmets:

 

http://www.njdirt.com/07/blog/images/helmet.jpg

http://www.medievalarmor.com/medieval-armor-images/imperial-roman-helmet-8112.jpg

http://conanwatch.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/sheet_aquilonia_armor_helmets_001.jpg

http://community-de.ageofconan.com/conan_de/frontend/files/CONTENT/sanctimoniousHelm_article.jpg

http://img156.imageshack.us/f/renderdarktemplarzq8.jpg/

http://www.collecttolkien.com/images/Helmets/Helm%20FOTR%20High%20Elven%20UC%20Jan2005%20$400.jpg

http://community.imaginefx.com/forums/storage/9/125324/royal%20armouries08%20253.jpg

http://www.aeimages.com/gallery2/d/489-3/02-viking-warrior-helmet.jpg

http://www.figuresworld.net/movies_tv/300/leonidas_helmet.jpg

http://www.kingofswords.com/images/persianimmortalmask.jpg

http://msp120.photobucket.com/albums/o166/studioscarab/Odin.jpg

http://einoo.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/warriors-of-chaos_khorne_gdesign_03.jpg

http://www.cine-collector.com/catalog/images/9528_image02.jpg

http://www.armsoftheworld.com/images/MC352_0.jpg

 

Reply #6 Top

shields


http://the-pain.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/10d_shield.jpg

http://the-pain.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/shield-10.jpg

https://www.tentonhammer.com/image/view/11548/preview

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20071122124924/warhammeronline/images/d/d8/Empire_shield.jpg

http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/home/images/newsletter/2009_02/TK_Shield.jpg

http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/media/images/conceptArt/CncArt0907_33.jpg

http://mythicmktg.fileburst.com/war/us/home/images/newsletter/2007_06/ChaosWP_09.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v302/roses4you/Gazette/HighElvenShield.jpg

http://www.starstore.com/acatalog/Capt_America_Archive-set.jpg lol....

Reply #7 Top

I meant a list like this:

Helmets: some spikes, soem horns, some different noseguards, some chainmail sides

etc.

Reply #8 Top

Chain mail should have an advantage over plate in that it's lighter, therefore allowing more mobility/agility/speed. Remember Frodo's Mithril mail? It was so light because it was chain mail, allowing more speed, yet it was of superior material than typical plate mail. An extreme example, but you would never give an archer more than chain mail, for example, to allow them to use their bows. Not true in this game.

 

Oh, and no female armor yet, it appears. Chain mail bikinis, anyone?  :drool:

Reply #9 Top

you could also include certain weapon malus - for example, everything higher then chainmail gives you a malus to ranged weapons...i just dont want again a game where a tier 4 full plate armor is always betther then a tier 2 chain mail...