Currency 2 is useless ??

I think yes....

I just played some game and everytime my team mate was buying this cur2 and they seems to doesnt know whats the difference. This upgrade doesnt need to be "purchase" because 2 more gold every sec = 2(gold) x 60(1min)= 120 and 120(gold)x10(mins)= 1200. So, you will get 1200 MORE gold in 10min. So why take this. In 10min u can get this gold by killing creeps, getting a kill, etc. Get exp1, priest, wait for angel or buy better equip. This thing cost 3k. You can get nice equip with that 3k. The only time you get cur2 and to get cur3 for the 4 more extra gold instead of only 2 extra gold. Just hope ppl will thing about this.

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Reply #1 Top

2 gold per tick PER PERSON. 2v2, I wouldn't get it. 3v3, I'd get it if the game is going to be long. 4v4 or 5v5 it's definitely worth it.

EDIT: Oh, and if you have a regulus with coin purse it's totally worth it.

Reply #2 Top

Yeah, Curr 2 and 3 is only worth it in 3v3 and up.

Reply #3 Top

Quoting OMG_Splitshadow, reply 1
2 gold per tick PER PERSON. 2v2, I wouldn't get it. 3v3, I'd get it if the game is going to be long. 4v4 or 5v5 it's definitely worth it.

EDIT: Oh, and if you have a regulus with coin purse it's totally worth it.
End of OMG_Splitshadow's quote

Yeah if the game is going to be long i will get it too but not early in game. We need money to get equip. And spend 3k for only 2 more gold is not a priority. Even if EACH players on ur team get 2 more gold each sec, u can get this gold faster with creeps and flag.

Quoting Spooky__, reply 2
Yeah, Curr 2 and 3 is only worth it in 3v3 and up.
End of Spooky__'s quote

Depend if the game will be long or not. Useless to get cur2 if the game is almost done :P

Reply #4 Top

Never get curr 3 unless you are just crazy loaded and can spare it.   Cur II in 2v2 games doesnt pay you back until like 40mins in so it is rarely a good idea to get it. Curr II is good in 3v3 games where you have a dg that doesn't need many items and can spend all their gold past a certain pt on the citadel,  such as Regulus.  Cur II is a must in 4v4 games the amount of gold you get is well worth it spread over 4 people.

Reply #5 Top

http://forums.demigodthegame.com/380600

 

 

I definitely agree with pacov & nomilarac.  You can also look at it this way... In any situation 1 person is making the investment and gimping oneself to benefit the team.  Assuming 3000 gold investment @ .9 seconds per tick and 2 gold per tick, it takes that 1 person 1350 seconds (22.5 minutes) before they begin to receive they're ROI (personally). 

In that same amount of time the other teamates Make 3000 gold additionally each with zero investment.  In a 2v2 situation this is a direct transfer over time.  It would be more effective to drop your teammate a $3k piece of armor that he needs.

From a team perspective:

In a 3v3 situation then it still takes the investor 22.5 minutes to break even but the team pool of gold breaks even after 450 seconds which is 7.5 minutes (as stated above a couple of times)

for 4v4 it takes 337.5 seconds (5.625 minutes) for the team to break even and 5v5 = 270 seconds (4.5 minutes.)  

The person making the investment has to be a ranged attacker that doesn't rely on armor to stay alive.  As pacov mentioned a regulus is the best person to make the investment.  A tank would really be hurting their team if they got cur II regardless if its 5v5.  An ice TB that has enough mana (ie. BotS) may be a candidate since they are mostly ranged. 

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Reply #6 Top

Crucible 1vs1

These games usually take around 60 minutes.

Reply #7 Top

Also have to remember, whoever gets it CAN'T die. If they die because they were too weak, then all the benefit from purchasing the upgrade is lost. This is why Regulus is really the only "good" candidate for purchasing Cur 2 in 3v3 Cata, assuming no or very few kills per side. 4v4 Levi Sedna can easily run around with roughly 4k gold worth of items for most of the game so one person can get Cur I and she can get Cur II. 

Reply #8 Top

just remember. gold 1 in cataract, and gold 2 in zigurat

u wanna rather save it for catas in cataract

Reply #9 Top

No its not useless. If you expect a long game it is benefitial to have it especially on Zik.

Reply #10 Top

Quoting OMG_BlackHatHedgehog, reply 7
Also have to remember, whoever gets it CAN'T die. If they die because they were too weak, then all the benefit from purchasing the upgrade is lost. This is why Regulus is really the only "good" candidate for purchasing Cur 2 in 3v3 Cata, assuming no or very few kills per side. 4v4 Levi Sedna can easily run around with roughly 4k gold worth of items for most of the game so one person can get Cur I and she can get Cur II. 
End of OMG_BlackHatHedgehog's quote

 

I'm not sure if I agree with this. In economics I think this death would be a sunk cost. It's not going to be clear if the death was directly caused by not purchasing something with the 3k. As for Regulus being the only good candidate, I'm not agreeing with this either. The calculations show that by war rank 10 the team will have accrued 1,222 gold more than the other side per player beyond the cost of curr2 on a 3v3. Time value of money is the only thing here that weighs against Curr2. By that I mean what everyone else has said about purchasing something else, but consider that while one teammate is out some gold, the others are not burdened in any way, and have increased their purchasing power and their time value (excuse poor comma usage).

Curr2 in a 3v3 is not "useless" so long as the game will last more than 9.29 minutes beyond the purchase time. It may not be the vital winning mechanism that you desire, but it is not useless. I personally prefer buying xp and extra locks and tp's.

Reply #11 Top

Well, I don't usually like Curr 2. 

The way I look at it:

I usually see it purchased around lvl 10/10 mins in or so. 

I just feel that 3,000 spent on yourself means more NOW then it would in however long it takes for Curr2 to assist. Sure, it helps others, but by the time it helps them, its gotten to the point where it doesn't matter as much.

I'm not saying late game gold is worthless, its just more important to get yo' shit together early and it hurts whoever does it.

Not if theres kills left and right though, then go crazy. Just in close games, I don't see it worthwhile.

Reply #12 Top

@Teseer im agree with you. I posted this topic for this reason. Cur2 can be really usefull. Depend of the maps, longer of game, if gold income is set to high, ur team mate, etc.

It just i didnt explain very well what my point was. Since lot of game are played on Cataract and 3v3 i was thinking about this setup. If your team doesnt have any demigod thats doesnt request lot of stuff to get, like reg/tb, its possible to get cur2. But if your team is rook/sedna/oak dont think one of them will spend 3k to get cur2.

Reply #13 Top

I say a War Rank takes about 3.33333333 minutes.

So if you get it by 5, you will have 1.2k by rank 8, unless the other team is doing poorly and let you get all the flags.

Basically, if you get it, it's same as you gave your allies ~1k gold by rank 8.

 

Are you willing to lose 1.8k gold so that your allies will have 2.4k gold?

Reply #14 Top

I'd be fine is someone got it and didn't gimp themselves, but I won't buy it.

Reply #15 Top

Quoting Zoahr, reply 13
I say a War Rank takes about 3.33333333 minutes.

So if you get it by 5, you will have 1.2k by rank 8, unless the other team is doing poorly and let you get all the flags.

Basically, if you get it, it's same as you gave your allies ~1k gold by rank 8.

 

Are you willing to lose 1.8k gold so that your allies will have 2.4k gold?
End of Zoahr's quote

Just keep in mind its 1.2k in 10min...no matter how many flag you control. If you can buy it earlier in game its a most. Otherwise, you need someone who doesnt need lot of stuff like Reg/TB and you need to have the 3k to spend it. So the one who spend the 3k need 25min to recover his 3k.

Reply #16 Top

As TB I need lossa stuff, I dunno about you.

Reply #17 Top

Reg is the only dg in a 3v3 that should buy cur II without lots of kills.