Exploit Game Settings !

how to make ur fellow game fan sick...

from Demigod Forums

Dear DG Community,

 

do i really have to check the settings of each and every game i enter before pressing ready  ?!?!

 

If u say yes..u can stop reading here:

 

BUT: Here comes the problem. I see more and more players focussing their strats on a special game setting...whatever...fast xp rate, slow flag capture, long respawn, creeps, etc.,

 

Trained to that setting they just overwhelm random teams that expect a regular game. U expect a tower do a special dmg...but suddenly it does twice...or u expect u can cap the flag over there ...but u cant..cause it takes ages....and so on and on...u just loose cause u dont know what settings are done....

 

The solution:  If the game is done in standard settings.....RANK it.....if settings are costumized....its UNRANKED....that would prevent such ..forgive...SHITTY behavior.....

 

If u was fair enough to inform enemy team about the different settings...all is cool...but dont trick them in ur special game.

 

over and out ...da micro :star:

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Reply #1 from Demigod Forums Top

The only thing I'd really want as a tool against this - problem or not - is that there is an indicator in the list of games or in the game's lobby to show that the options are non-default. An icing on the cake would be that the altered settings be highlighted in the options screen to make it easier to spot.

Granted, the 'problem' with nondefault games is more the impatient hosts who will boot you if you spend anything more than 5 seconds readying up. More than a couple of times have I been asked to ready up, and booted while skimming through the game settings screen as quickly as I can.

Reply #2 from Demigod Forums Top

Agreed!

 

Anything would do...just a little comment in game chat when u enter game lobby.

 

Game settings: Costum

Game settings: Normal

 

 

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Reply #3 from Demigod Forums Top

I don't mind having custom game settings ranked, but I agree there should be an indicator of non-default settings in the lobby.

Until then, you are perfectly capable of checking the game settings yourself.  I do every time.

Reply #4 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting Primal, reply 3
there should be an indicator of non-default settings in the lobby.
End of Primal's quote
Yes, yes there should!

Reply #5 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting Ciber, reply 4



Quoting Primal Zed,
reply 3
there should be an indicator of non-default settings in the lobby.
Yes, yes there should!

End of Ciber's quote

Should have

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GPG Should work to improve this game

DG should be ranked as Closed Alpha in its current state.

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Reply #6 from Demigod Forums Top

Yay unproductive ranting?

Reply #7 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting Primal, reply 6
Yay unproductive ranting?
End of Primal's quote

Yeah, I tried the productive path, now I'm frustrated :(

Reply #8 from Demigod Forums Top
in newerth theres an icon for "advanced options" in the game list dont think itd be too hard to add that here, and little things like that can really change game experience
Reply #9 from Demigod Forums Top

It should just have a little message in the chat box when you enter, that says "standard settings" or "custom settings." That way you'll know if you need to check the settings after you get in the game.

Reply #10 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting To, reply 1
The only thing I'd really want as a tool against this - problem or not - is that there is an indicator in the list of games or in the game's lobby to show that the options are non-default. An icing on the cake would be that the altered settings be highlighted in the options screen to make it easier to spot.

End of To's quote

I recommended this in beta 3 back in March.

Quoting Neoauld, reply 8
in newerth theres an icon for "advanced options" in the game list
dont think itd be too hard to add that here, and little things like that can really change game experience
End of Neoauld's quote

You're right, litle things like this can really make this game so much better.  This is a great game, it deserves better from the devs and the players.  I would love to see a lot of small changes and am really hopeful for v1.2.  That should really help a lot with the polish.  Let's hope sells are good enough that we end up getting an expansion and in the expansion they fix connections, because this is one of my top 5 games ever for fun when it works.

Reply #11 from Demigod Forums Top

Hopefully the demo brings a new crop of players to keep gaspowered/stardock interested.

Reply #12 from Demigod Forums Top

I'm with legolan here.. Just a warning on the lobby's chat box should be enough, IMO.

Reply #14 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting mgmetal13, reply 13
Is it really that hard to check the game setting before you play?
End of mgmetal13's quote

No, but sometimes you miss stuff. Heck, I joined one game, checked the settings, and they were all normal. The one thing I didn't think to look at was the FoW setting -- he had turned it off and didn't bother mentioning it. And he was Reg, hardly a coincidence. We still beat him though :P.

But really, it would be a lot nicer if it just had a little alert saying "standard settings" or "custom settings." I remember in SupCom when they implemented something that made it easier to see if a mod was enabled. Sure, you could have checked, but people forget. Pretty much everyone liked that update, and I certain that such a addition would be well received in Demigod as well.

Reply #15 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting mgmetal13, reply 13
Is it really that hard to check the game setting before you play?
End of mgmetal13's quote

 

for one, the settings shown on screen of the host and the screen of the other guys dont have to be the same! its bugged, but not every time. looks like there is a bug, which shows settings from previous games. (haven´t checked this with the newest patch)

 

second: for many other games, the options are shown right in the game-lobby. i.e. dawn of war (1). i suggested that a lot of times here in the forum, no response. that would help a lot.

 

 

i dont like to be forced to manually check the settings every fcking game or maybe get screwed otherwise. the idea to give the players a message if there are non-custom settings is great imo, because you dont have to programm and design a new box somewhere on the screen and it should be pretty easy to code something that checks all settings and prints a message in the chat-window. if you´d ask me, that should be programmed in less than 10minutes.

Reply #16 from Demigod Forums Top

what's so hard about asking them in-game if your not sure(or didnt check before the game started)?

Reply #17 from Demigod Forums Top

These things aren't hard at all, and I'm reserved about even calling it a 'problem'. All I'm saying is that it would be nice to see at-a-glance what games are running default settings or not.

Reply #18 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting StAcK3D_ActR, reply 16
what's so hard about asking them in-game if your not sure(or didnt check before the game started)?
End of StAcK3D_ActR's quote

 

whats so hard to give the gamers a tiny little bit of comfort, that is standard in a lot of other games? its just very uncomfortable to be forced to ask for the settings EVERY TIME. assuming the host tells you the truth...

is it that hard to implement? take this for example:, made it in 2minutes:

 

plenty of space to get the settings there. would it hurt?! i guess not.

as you can see, non-standard (FoW) is written in red to indicate that this is not normal.

the text has to be put in a table, of course, but you should get the idea.

i hope some of the developers will see this or get this passed through to them.

 

 

edit: made a topic in the idea section: http://forums.demigodthegame.com/361185

Reply #19 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting StAcK3D_ActR, reply 16
what's so hard about asking them in-game if your not sure(or didnt check before the game started)?
End of StAcK3D_ActR's quote

Here Here.

 

I'm not saying a simple reveal in the chat log when you join, or a small notice saying custom vs default wouldnt be a good idea.  But it seems pointless to whine about other peoples settings when there is, in reality, a safe check system if its changed on you.  They obviously felt that was all that was needed since you can look at the settings yourself. 

 

And really, as long as you look, its not a problem at all.  And you shouldn't complain about other peoples settings anyway.  If you join someone elses game, you freely give up control to the host on what the settings are.  If you don't like that, host your own games.

Reply #20 from Demigod Forums Top

Not everybody changes the settings, and after a while you might forget to check 'em and get blindsided one game. Really annoying.

But it would also be good for the host. I've started a game or two and gone, "Oh crap. I forgot I had that setting on custom."

 

:fox:

Reply #22 from Demigod Forums Top

I agree.

 

Ranking games that have different settings doesn't rank anything at all. The measuring stick needs to be level for all players, otherwise you'll never know who's really the best.

Reply #24 from Demigod Forums Top

I played against a guy and im assuming one or two buddies on prison

Game is Fortress

Start gold: High

Creep strength: High

Spawn: High

Tower: High

War Rank: 7

 

Now i can see the genius of these settings against random players. Randoms who dont know better will find themselves facing forts with trebs at start and immediately lose 2 fortresses. And there after its practically game set match. Lucky me i was with smart teammates and beat them at his own game.

On one hand i was alittle annoyed, but i cant help but admire the guys strategy. Pretty brilliant against guys who dont know better.