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Saving the planet

Saving the planet

I have been reading with some interest about how we must save the planet from man. I was part of the first Earth Day way back in the 70’s and worried about the coming ice age. Here are a few facts that might help you understand what is happening and put it all in perspective.

Ten billion years from now the sun will burn itself out, run out of fuel and die. Dose anyone care? No, we will all be dead by then and no one cares that far into the future.

Five billion years from now the sun will have reached its largest size expanding all the way into the orbits of Mercury, and Venus. The heat from that expansion will boil stone on Earth. Does anyone care? No, because we will all be dead by then and no one cares that far into the future.

Two hundred and fifty million years from now the heat from the sun will melt all the mountains on the Earth so there will be no mountains or valleys. Does anyone care? No, because we will all be dead and no one cares that far into the future.

One hundred and forty thousand years from now all the water on the Earth will have boiled or evaporated away, killing all but microbial live on the planet. Does anyone care? No, because we will all be dead and no one cares that far into the future.

Thirty thousand years from now we will have a full-blown ice age. This wont last long because of the Sun’s expansion and in fifty thousand years, the Earth will be hotter than it is right now. Does anyone care? No, because we will all be dead and no one cares that far into the future.

People cry about mankind destroying the planet yet we have not done a single thing to save mankind. While standing on the moon special photographs were taken of the Earth and it was discovered that our oceans are evaporating into space. Has anyone even attempted to point this out and try to stop it? No, because it is beyond man’s ability to stop the same process that happened on the planet Venus and is happening here on the Earth. Just in case you don’t grasp what I have written here is the plain truth. Without liquid water everything on this planet dies. This means that we have roughly one hundred thousand years to save mankind or we are all doomed.

It does not matter if we plant a tree on every square yard of soil on this planet it will all come to an end in a few thousand years. Do you care? I seriously doubt it because no one is trying to protect the species from extinction. Instead we are arguing over silly things like global climate change, something that has been happening for millions of years.

Though the dates may be off by a few decades are centuries the fact remains the same, Planet Earth is doomed and there is nothing that man can do to save it.

Global Climate Change, a phrase that gets thrown around as if it means something. Here is what it means. The planet it 4.5 billion years old. In that time the climate has changed three times, first it was a ball of molten rock with an atmosphere of nitrogen and sulfur dioxide. Organisms flourished and all was well with the world.

The Earth cooled and other organisms began to consume the sulfur and fart oxygen, this caused the climate to change to nitrogen, carbon, and oxygen atmosphere. This was toxic to most all the organisms on the planet.

Plants grew from this mix, they consume carbon and fart oxygen. This caused another climate change and the atmosphere became nitrogen oxygen with trace elements of sulfur and carbon as well as other even smaller trace elements. This became toxic to the last dominant species that fed on sulfur and is now becoming toxic to organisms that consume carbon because there is so little of it. This is why we are seeing a decline in coral reefs. There is not enough carbon dioxide in seawater for them to grow as they once did. The carbonic acid in the water is so reduced that other species now flourish that man consumes as food called fish. The fish that did not adapt died. Remnants can be found on the ocean floor where volcanic vents spew out the nutrients and warmth they need to survive, but the sea life is so toxic to man that if we tried to eat them we would die. They need water temperature to be between seven hundred and nine hundred degrees with a high sulfur content. That was how the earth was for them millions of years ago, now it can only be found in a few hundred hot spots on the ocean floor. Do you want to save the planet and turn it back to that thus saving them from extinction? It would mean the extinction of mankind but we could do it if we tried. Well not really, we could attempt to do it and kill off a few billion species but in the end they had their shot and they will slowly die out no matter what we do.

The species that changed the climate for mankind is dying out in the oceans because we don’t produce enough carbon dioxide for them to live. Next will be plant life on the surface like trees and wheat. Yes, they will die out and with it all the Vegans.

Yes, the climate is changing and we had nothing to do with it three times and we still have not done anything to affect the climate.

Add to this plate tectonics that are slowly moving our continents around the planet like pieces on a chessboard. India used to be part of Antarctica and it is now several thousand miles away. At three times in the history of the Earth we have had one super continent. Each time the climate changed. Two hundred and fifty million years from now we will have another super continent and the climate will change again. In that time the planet Earth will have gone through at least one more ice age and one more heat wave. Mankind will have to live on the coastal regions of the super continent because the interior will be a vast desert. Think of Australia only bigger.

So we will have the oceans evaporating, the Sun getting hotter, larger and closer to the Earth. Oh, I almost forgot we would all be dead by then. Does anyone care?

With all of this, and this is the optimistic view of how things are happening, what do you propose to save the planet or mankind?

Plant a tree, carbon credits? We have to get the species off the planet and we have to move quickly or we are all doomed. The only remnant of mankind will be five probes that we have sent out of the solar system and seventy years of broadcasts that fade to nothing about thirty trillion miles from here.

Save the planet? For whom? This rock is dead and there is nothing we can do to stop it. With our current technology we have not found a planet we can move to and if we did we can’t get there in less than ten life times. Meaning we need to stop wasting resources on saving a dying planet and start using them to save us!

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I have grandchildred and i would like to think their children have a chance.

What say you?

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Interesting article, my only concern is how you believe this is the truth when in reality todays technology is still not advanced enough to be very accurate. 10 billion years is a very round and not very specific number. For all we know it could last 20 billion years, maybe some kind of unknown phenomenon will slow the burning process, maybe a meteor will crash on this planet and throw it out of orbit. For all we know, 10 years from now we may have found either anew planet, technology to get there in less time or even a way to save this planet. Then again, we may destroy ourselves within the next few decades with all these nuclear arguments going around today.

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Paladin77 long time no see, welcome back.

Yeah I remember when I was a kid and all the talk was that the time for the next Ice Age was upon us. The scientists had their charts and grafts then too. The current batch of "loons" wonder why everyone is not on their knees praying to the god Al Gore for salvation. It's simple really, many of us were suckered once, some are falling for it twice, and of course the latest generation is getting their the "sky is falling" tale for the first time.

The earth changes from time to time. If it didn't it would still be a rock floating in space. These change occurred before man and will continue after him. Lets clean the air for the best reason, to rid pollution, but as far as CO2 I'm not bothered. Besides trees love it, and we sure need more of those.

 

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Interesting article, my only concern is how you believe this is the truth when in reality todays technology is still not advanced enough to be very accurate.
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Thank you, if this is your only concern then you won’t have far to look. It is simple based on observations by astronomers they suggest that the Sun is roughly five billion years old and the Earth is 4.5 billion years old. Based on observation of other stars like ours, they also state, and it is the working theory, that there is between five and ten billion years of life left in our Sun. I used the longest life of the star rather than the shortest figures. Astronomers have documented the life and death of stars and have done the math of the remaining fuel of our own star. For decades they said it was five to six billion years left now they are saying it is five to ten billion years but at the ten billion year mark it is at the end of the white dwarf stage. When the Sun reaches the red giant stage is when it will expand in size killing all life on our planet.

 

Observations of all the planets as well as the SOHO satellite one of two that observes the Sun 24/7 have shown that the Sun is expanding and the warmth is spreading throughout the solar system. Venus, Earth, Mars are all getting hotter based on 30 years of observations. It was also noted that Pluto is also getting warmer even though it is starting its winter cycle that lasts about 80 years. When man first walked on the moon the high temperature was 240 degrees now it is 250 degrees. That is a ten degree rise in 40 years.

 

Now I could say that there is a consensus among scientist but I think we have heard enough of that crap. I could also say that the debate is over on this topic but that would be the same lie the global climate change people use. The truthful answer is the accuracy is not in dispute! lol we will always get better numbers as technology improves.

maybe a meteor will crash on this planet and throw it out of orbit.
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Good point, there is an asteroid that in heading our way, and will be here in roughly seven hundred years. On its next pass there is a chance that it will miss us. If it does miss us there is a thirty mile wide window for it to pass through and if it goes through that window, then on its return trip it will hit the Earth so thirty years later. If it does hit us then all bets are off because it is something like twenty miles wide and traveling at fifty thousand miles an hour. An asteroid just six miles wide was theorized to have wiped out the dinosaurs 65 million years ago. At twenty miles wide all animal live on the surface will die and most of the sea life will be in jeopardy. This was announced about four or five years ago with the orbit was discovered and confirmed. Does anyone care? Do you care? If so why?

 

For all we know, 10 years from now we may have found either anew planet, technology to get there in less time or even a way to save this planet.
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This is true, and there is always hope that we can find a planet that we can live on. The situation as it stands now is this; the fastest probe we have sent out is the new horizons probe. It only took eight hours to go from the Earth and passed the Moon on its ten year journey to the planet Pluto. (Yes, I called it a planet not a KBO) that is going at a whopping 30,000 an hour which is slower than the Voyager probes with gravity assists that has them moving at roughly 40,000 miles an hour and has taken 32 years just to reach the edge of our solar system. The nearest planet that we have discovered so far is light years away and the size of Jupiter, a gas giant that we can’t live on, and according to the general theory of relativity nothing with any real mass can travel at the speed of light and light speed is the universal limit. This may be broken in the future but as it stands right now only light can travel at the speed of light. We currently don’t have the ability to spot a planet as small as ours although we are launching two probes that have a chance of spotting one our size but the best guess is it will take decades of searching to find one Earth sized planet and the distance we will have to travel will take generations. Then we have to see if someone is there already. It may be uninhabited when we head out there and in the millions of years to get there someone else may have moved in.

 

I have been advocating more spending on space technology for decades because I came to the conclusion back in the 70’s that it is mankind’s only hope.

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The earth changes from time to time. If it didn't it would still be a rock floating in space. These change occurred before man and will continue after him. Lets clean the air for the best reason, to rid pollution, but as far as CO2 I'm not bothered. Besides trees love it, and we sure need more of those.
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Yeah, I was shocked when the Supreme Court ruled that carbon dioxide was a pollutant. Every mammal exhales carbon dioxide, every green plant except the soy plant inhales carbon dioxide in order to grow. The more CO2 the more plants we can grow, this is why it is called a greenhouse gas not because it traps heat. (Soy breaths nitrogen dioxide and exhales oxygen.)

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The nearest planet that we have discovered so far is light years away and the size of Jupiter, a gas giant that we can’t live on, and according to the general theory of relativity nothing with any real mass can travel at the speed of light and light speed is the universal limit.
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Yea, I have heard of that, it's my understanding that we do not have a material that can withstand the stress of light speed, not to mention our own bodies. I'm a big fan of Star Trek and while I know that is a sci fi show, many of the technologies are based on possiblilities. I tried to understand how warp speed worked, I think if I recall correctly, it has something to do with the shielding the ships use, the shape of the ship and something else but can't remember.

I love all this sci fi stuff, maybe we will have to do like the movie Wall-E except e may not come back, we will simply live in space till we find a new home. Isn't that what BattleStar Galactica is more or less about?

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we need to go to space and colonize the astroid belt, once there we should dissassemble earth (blow it up) for ease of harvesting. I mean, just think of all that iron at the core going to waste, and all the water in the ocean being unuseable, and all those materials which are too deep below the crust to be harvested?

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When it comes to the planet; I look at it this way:

I currently live in an apartment which is expected to be kept clean; aside from that requirement, there is the fact that I cannot stand living in a messy place. So, I take care of it. Likewise, with the planet, I believe in taking care of what you have.

Whether or not the planet is hurting, whether or not we are causing global warming - it just makes sense to me to take care of (conserve, preserve, etc...) what you have. It really is a no brainer I think.

~Alderic

 

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Quoting AldericJourdain, reply 8
Whether or not the planet is hurting, whether or not we are causing global warming - it just makes sense to me to take care of (conserve, preserve, etc...) what you have. It really is a no brainer I think. 
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I agree with this, to an extent.  Of course the question then becomes, how far do we go to preserve said planet?

I would much rather throw Bambi under a bus than another person.

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Hey Hey Hey! Wait a minute IQofSpam!  What do you think you're doing!  You're going to through Bambi under a bus!!!!!! I am shocked by this wasteful behavior.

If you have Bambi instead of throwing him/her under a bus why don't you just through him/her onto my grill and then nobody has to get hurt when Bambi gets thrown under a bus through that action or through my tirade.

Come on, grilled venison for ALL and to all it WILL BE a good night.  BTW, I am an excellent chef (aka chief I love that the snickers comercial)

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Everyone do what they can, if they can, when they want to....saving our planet whether or not we are going to be here, 5, 10 or 2000 years from now, (to exaggerate) whether or not it is important to the person doing it, that is what is important. 

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Yea, I have heard of that, it's my understanding that we do not have a material that can withstand the stress of light speed, not to mention our own bodies. I'm a big fan of Star Trek and while I know that is a sci fi show, many of the technologies are based on possiblilities.
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Charles, I too like star trek and was more than pleased when NASA cleared all of their science babble before it was filmed. If there was a real theory they worked with that theory rather than making stuff up.

I tried to understand how warp speed worked, I think if I recall correctly, it has something to do with the shielding the ships use, the shape of the ship and something else but can't remember.
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It is not the stress of traveling the speed of light it is the fuel required. Once you get past thirty percent of the speed of light you need the same amount of fuel as the weight of the space ship. Since you can’t carry that with you without having to add more fuel to cover the weight of the first load of fuel you get stuck at 29% of the speed of light.

I love all this sci fi stuff, maybe we will have to do like the movie Wall-E except e may not come back, we will simply live in space till we find a new home. Isn't that what BattleStar Galactica is more or less about?
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I enjoy scifi and liked how BSG ended. Living in space has its hazards. Radiation being chief among them, gravity being another problem. Our bones must have gravity or the body will get rid of what is not used. No bones makes it hard to walk upright.

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I agree with this, to an extent. Of course the question then becomes, how far do we go to preserve said planet?

I would much rather throw Bambi under a bus than another person.
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It would depend on the person... }:)

 

On a serious note - I've been crossing every finger and toe in hopes that I get accepted as a transfer student to one of the colleges in state: my dream college. I do not normally ask for thoughts/prayers, but I really could use any finger/toe crossings, prayers or non-prayers for this matter. So, if anyone wants to send one my way - muchos gracias.

 

~Alderic

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Quoting Paladin77, reply 12

I enjoy scifi and liked how BSG ended. Living in space has its hazards. Radiation being chief among them, gravity being another problem. Our bones must have gravity or the body will get rid of what is not used. No bones makes it hard to walk upright.
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Thats why you spin the space structure. Centripital and centrifugal effects are amazing really. You can have perfect earth gravity in space in a tiny structure.

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Quoting AldericJourdain, reply 8
When it comes to the planet; I look at it this way:

I currently live in an apartment which is expected to be kept clean; aside from that requirement, there is the fact that I cannot stand living in a messy place. So, I take care of it. Likewise, with the planet, I believe in taking care of what you have.

Whether or not the planet is hurting, whether or not we are causing global warming - it just makes sense to me to take care of (conserve, preserve, etc...) what you have. It really is a no brainer I think.

~Alderic

 
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Well, is it bad to put trash in the trashcan in your apartment? do you avoid farting in the apartment because it makes it hotter (apartment warming!)? Do you use extremely dangerous and toxic chemicals to recycle paper so you don't have to plant more trees to make tree farms... ok the apartment analogy broke here.

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Well, is it bad to put trash in the trashcan in your apartment? do you avoid farting in the apartment because it makes it hotter (apartment warming!)? Do you use extremely dangerous and toxic chemicals to recycle paper so you don't have to plant more trees to make tree farms... ok the apartment analogy broke here.
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While I tend to shop as much as I can for products made from recycled and recycylable/biodegradeable materal, there are stores here provide that. In general I recycle everything I can: metals, platics, papers, etc.So, in essence I do not have a "trash can." I stay away from foams, etc.

You're assuming my aim is to prevent all of my impact - that's not feasible; it's not realistic. You cannot prevent a car from getting dings and scratches; likewise you cannot prevent a dwelling from being *used*.

 


For that matter; here is another analogy that might clear it up:

“You may or may not have a particular form of an aggressive cancer. The tests given show that you probably do, but some people dispute those tests. The medical profession as a whole are strongly urging that you immediately undertake treatment that would save you if you do have the cancer, but OTOH, you might not need the treatment. The treatment is pervasive—it requires you to change your lifestyle of over-consumption and get physically fit. So it’s not easy—though, of course, even if you don’t have the cancer, the treatment will undoubtedly make you more healthy. But my recommendation is that we just wait, making no serious changes, which will be much easier for you. After a while, we’ll know for sure whether you actually need the treatment. Of course, by then it will be too late, should you in fact have the cancer (as the tests indicate).”

 

Also, you're comments fail to hit my point. I don't do it because of global warming - I do it because I care about the environment. It is obvious that there is a rise in global temperature, is it going to endanger us all? Pfft, who knows. The entire issue is too caught up in politics. I'm just going to live my life like this, and take care of the environment. Politics be damned.

 

~Alderic

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the problem is that the treatment requires you to get ILL not fit... the treatment is chemotherapy, it harms the economy, a lot.

I care, a lot, which is why as I started to really learn about it and see how I have been duped by the idiot environmentalists and their LIES, yes LIES, I was really upset.

If you care enough to do something, you should care enough to mount a proper investigation and research, and if you do that you will find for yourself the lies that go around the "green" movement and their motives. (basic anti corporate/government pro communist tripe)

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Taltamir,

Don't forgot about ELF or ALF.  No I'm not talking about that little fury alien that likes cats nor one of Santa's little helpers.  ELF has two members on the FBI most wanted list.  On the interpol's top 10 list both groups have several people. 

These individuals of both of these groups probably watched Captain Planet 24/7 365 and a quarter when they were younger.  Both of these groups feel Animal lives are more valuable than a human life. 

Don't get me wrong, I think we should take  care of the Earth BUT I think most ultra green people give the human race too much credit for destroying the planet.  I am fairly certain that we'll be gone from this planet (as this article states) before we could destroy it.  I do agree that the chicken and cattle industry aren't treating their animals right.  The fact that they've genetically altered a chicken so that it would not have a hard beck is really scarey.  Also, I remember (again they are reusing this agrument) several years ago, the green movement saying that cows' flatulences is destorying the world and Ozone. Blast those cows!  Those dumb plants aren't inhaling enough CO2.  Why don't we just genetically alter plants so they'll take in more CO2? Again, I'm not saying that I believe that non-sense.

Its funny Taltamir how you brought up the green movements and their motives for I have never watched an espisode of Captain Planet. So one day a long time ago, I decided to see what that cartoon was all about.  Bascially the evil villian is almost always a big fat cigar smoking rich white dude and on rare occasions a fit good looking individual.  I would say that I couldn't believe the message of this cartoon, but a cartoon I like the creator is very very liberal and he uses his own voice for one of the characters.  This characters views are ultra liberal. In reality, are they're any conservative cartoons?

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Thats why you spin the space structure. Centripital and centrifugal effects are amazing really. You can have perfect earth gravity in space in a tiny structure.
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Works great for tiny space crafts but not so much for larger ones. I designed a spacecraft for travel to other solar systems. It is 24 miles in diameter it uses a spin to create artificial gravity, the problem with that is you will have different levels of gravity on each deck and in the center of the craft you will have zero gravity. My only problem that I have yet to overcome is the speed. No matter how big the engines are I can’t get it moving faster than 20% of the speed of light, even at five million miles an hour it will take centuries to get the ship from here to there. That means we have to only move couples that are married and insist that every couple produce a male and female child to ensure that when the ship arrives it has people on board. After three hundred years the food and water run out so if the planet is inhabited when we get there it was all for nothing unless they let us stay.

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Saving the planet is a waste of time and energy. We are not running out of oil and won’t run out this century. We are not running out of drinking water, or fresh air to breathe. With that said I am not against cleaning up the environment to save humans from our own filth. We have polluted rivers and streams in the past but learned that the environment can’t handle it and after a hundred years of pollution I took us less than a decade to clean up most of the mess.

What upsets me is that after we cleaned up a hundred-year mess in ten years we are told that we now must make it as clean as it was before we got here. It was never that clean. In each age there were pollutants that killed off the majority of species. The Tambora eruption in 1815 just as we were ending the last ice age gave us the year without summer and almost wiped out a large percentage of humanity. The caldera in Yellowstone Park erupted 70,000 years ago and is starting to go through that cycle again. Activity has been noted there for the last fifty years and can go off at any time. When it does it will be much smaller that the last eruption with a kill zone of only 900 to 1,000 miles. Look at a map and tell me if you are in a safe zone.

The last caldera to erupt was 79AD and it was so much fun it reduced the world population to less than 100,000 people, some say less than 10,000 either way it was bad. My point is that this planet is trying to kill us all.

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Don't get me wrong, I think we should take care of the Earth BUT I think most ultra green people give the human race too much credit for destroying the planet.
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I don’t believe that man can destroy this planet. Not one species on this planet has been eradicated by man. We have been trying to kill the cockroach for a thousand years, we have been trying to get rid of fleas and mosquitoes for ten thousand years. I can’t even guess at how long we have been trying to get rid of rats, yet the environ-MENTAL-ists try to tell us that we are the bane of the planet killing off species left and right. Has anyone bothered to ask what species we have killed off? The answer is none. Yes, species have gone extinct but none because of mankind. The planet Earth has killed off billions of species. Who is the killer here?

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perfect example is the panda... pandas are giant racoons with a meat eaters digestive system retrofitted to digest ONLY bamboo... as such it has abysmal recovery rates for energy from food, with less than 1% efficiency! this means the panda has to eat tons of food to survive.

Pandas sole food is bamboo, every 10 years or so all bamboo in a large region (small country) flower and produce seeds and die, and take a year before any more grow... so ALL the pandas in that region starve to death, they then spread back from other regions where the bambo hadn't flowered... the cycle repeats itself.

Pandas always give birth prematurely becaue of malnutrition, resulting in a babies so underdeveloped that they cannot even piss, the mother has to squeeze their feces and piss out so their bladders dont burst.

Exacerbating the malnutrition problem, pandas ALWAYS give birth to twins..

Pandas ALWAYS abandon one of the twins because they can only produce enough milk for one baby even at the best of times.

Pandas are hostile to the other baby if humans feed it forumula.

Pandas don't like breeding in captivity, or much at all for that matter. And can only do so once every 2 years anyways.

 

Pandas are going extinct because they are made of fail, not because of humans. Although humans can take a creature on the cusp of extinction and hurry it to its doom... and also large slow breeding animals can be hunted to extinctions, but that is the exception not the rule.

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Quoting Paladin77, reply 19

Works great for tiny space crafts but not so much for larger ones. I designed a spacecraft for travel to other solar systems. It is 24 miles in diameter it uses a spin to create artificial gravity, the problem with that is you will have different levels of gravity on each deck and in the center of the craft you will have zero gravity. My only problem that I have yet to overcome is the speed. No matter how big the engines are I can’t get it moving faster than 20% of the speed of light, even at five million miles an hour it will take centuries to get the ship from here to there. That means we have to only move couples that are married and insist that every couple produce a male and female child to ensure that when the ship arrives it has people on board. After three hundred years the food and water run out so if the planet is inhabited when we get there it was all for nothing unless they let us stay.

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Have multiple tubes spinning individually. Besides, even if you have hypotehical artificial gravity that takes no energy you are still as limited by the speed of travel between solar systems.

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Quoting the_Peoples_Party, reply 18
Taltamir,

Don't forgot about ELF or ALF.  No I'm not talking about that little fury alien that likes cats nor one of Santa's little helpers.  ELF has two members on the FBI most wanted list.  On the interpol's top 10 list both groups have several people. 

These individuals of both of these groups probably watched Captain Planet 24/7 365 and a quarter when they were younger.  Both of these groups feel Animal lives are more valuable than a human life. 
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Yes, those are some crazy people... I liked captain planet as a kid, its horrible though, too many ultra liberal catoonists around. Brainwashing children with lies seems to be their thing.

Check out the founder of greenpeace, he left the orginization he founded because it was taken over by anti corporare communists who championed stupidy.

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The one thing that drives me to the edge of this planet (if this planet was flat I would fall off) is the point that Paladin77 was making:  the media/politics is totally riding this issue the whole way while most scientist will say that the human impact on the planet is very little/miniumial. 

It shows THAT YOU CAN'T TRUST THE FRIGGIN MEDIA!!!! Was there ever a time that the media wasn't so sensationalize and actually reported the facts? And not these half-lies ok maybe 1% truthful stories?  Don't get me wrong fellas, I do research for a living so I love to research information and to find information.  This should get you all thinking about what ELSE is the media manipulating and making sure that none of the truth is being told? 

Are we such neonates that we need someone to tell us how to think or to put a spin on something? Because you know we need someone or a bunch of someones to reguritate the information and make it so nice, and warm, and mushy, and fuzzy!  Seriously, that's how the media is.  They feel that we are a bunch of ninnyhammers who if we even have any brain cells left that they are on the same level as Octomom. Yes, I mentioned her! Politics are/have been going down the same road as the media!

Is anyone else sick of your intellect being insulted?

Is anyone else sick of being spooned feed this reguritated baby food by the media/politics?

Does anyone else want instead to get a nice juicey piece of lamb/steak/country fried steak?

Come! Let's get some meat and dine together!