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Demigod Pantheon Statistics - Log/Info/Suggestions

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Demigod Pantheon Statistics - Log/Info/Suggestions

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Hello everyone,

As Stardock's web developer, I was tasked with creating a statistics website for Demigod using the ungodly amount of data we (will) have available to us.  That website is now located at http://pantheon.demigodthegame.com.  A bunch of you already saw the "beta" version a few weeks back.  While this site is still a beta, I am happy enough with it to remove the beta message that was at the top of the page in the previous version.

Today I pushed an update that added a bunch of new statistics, pages, and a slight redesign. Starting today I will be keeping a log of changes to the site in this post.  I will also be checking for any suggestions, ideas, or feedback you guys may have on the site, so feel free to reply with any ideas. 

Please keep in mind that the site is still a work in progress.  Some numbers are still off, the design will likely be changed some more, and we will be adding more statistics in the future.  It will likely be updated a few more times before Demigod's release.

Change Log:
9/21/2009
- Fixed how player stats are saved to the database, so custom games now count for Ladder Rankings/Experience (not all custom games though, just ranked custom games).
- Added Notes tab to player pages. This will allow you to view and manage private notes for other players, which will eventually appear within Demigod itself. Only you can view notes you've written, and you cannot view other's notes or notes written about you.
- The player stats on the left side of the primary player page now includes a small description for each stat.
- Fixed minor bugs with graphs.
- Fixed other minor bugs.

6/5/2009
- Added "Ladder" stats and rankings, which include Skirmish and Pantheon games.
- Updated "Overall" stats to include everything, Overall is not ranked.
- Added Tournament Stats to player stats page.
- Player's games listing now shows "NA" if a game is not counted.
- Updated search page to show more information and be more informative.
- Updated achievements page, it will be turned on when the stats are reset.
- Other minor bug fixes and design changes.

5/18/2009
- Added graphs for each Pantheon tournament.
- Added graphs for maps.
- Added graphs for Demigods.
- Minor bug fixes.
- More changes to back-end for API.

5/11/2009
- Player stat charts!  Go to any player's initial page and you'll see some cool new charts and a slightly different layout.
- New tournament lists page (click on View All Tournaments at the bottom of any Pantheon page).
- Added current team progress chart (by percentage) to the right of the Pantheon page.
- Minor performance and back-end tweaks.

4/29/2009
- Lots of back-end changes to prepare for public API.
- Added sorting options to the Top Demigods and Maps pages.
- Updated all pages to make a more consistent error message system.
- Updated player search to avoid certain errors.

4/24/2009
- Maps statistics!  You can now view overall statistics for each map, as well as how you did on each map.
- Fixed up some search issues.
- Added "Skirmish Statistics" to the player info page, on the bar to the right (click on Overall Statistics to see a dropdown).
- The games list now shows the game name.
- Tons of changes in the backend to make things faster and more accurate.

4/9/2009
- Added Top Demigods section, showing which Demigods are being used the most, win the most, etc.
- Added Demigods tab to player info page, showing which Demigods each player has played their stats for that Demigod (note: stats are inaccurate for the time being).
- Added Skirmish Rankings tab to Top Players.
- Major changes to how we are collecting stats and data.
- Minor image and backend changes.

4/7/2009
- Added sorting to games list, search sorting coming later.
- Added small arrow icons to headers to show you which column is currently sorted, and in which direction.
- Updated games listing to make it more readable, added a new page for each game for extended info (click on the date to see the page).
- Minor background changes.

3/31/2009
- Sorting now works on rankings pages, has not yet been implemented into other pages.
- Search page columns slightly tweaked.
- Search bar now works properly in Chrome.
- Player info page now shows rank and favor points for overall and custom game stats.
- Other minor changes.

3/23/2009
- New design!
- Added experience and overall rank to search page.  All search statistics should now be "overall" statistics, not custom game or tournament stats.
- All pages now have proper headers and titles, should make things easier to navigate and harder to get lost.
- Player info page now shows the player's avatar and lists tournaments the player has participated in by default.
- General player statistics are now relegated to the right side of the player info page.  Clicking on "Overall Stats" will dropdown a box that allows you to switch between overall and custom game stats.
- Search box now submits by pressing enter.
- Added message to bottom of ranking page saying "Note: Rankings are updated once daily at midnight EST."
- Small presentation changes for numbers and dates.

3/10/2009
- Added new "Experience" rating on nearly any page that shows a player.
- You can now see what team a player is on for tournament rankings.
- Games list now shows the game type (Conquest, Flag Control, etc.).
- Added player count for each team on the tournament info page (note: this may not be accurate at the moment).
- Added "Top Clans" button that redirects to nowhere (for now).
- Renamed all instances of "Skirmish" to "Custom Games" (let me know if you find any I missed).
- Added tabs to top of rankings pages to switch between Overall rankings and Custom Game rankings.
- All instances of "Forces of Dark" renamed to "Forces of Darkness."
- Minor design, wording, and bug fixes.

3/5/2009
- Redesigned the player page and added tabs for separating stats in a more user-friendly manner.
- Added a player search bar to all Pantheon pages (top right corner).
- Separated skirmish, overall, and tournament stats into individual pages.
- Added an achievements page, but data is inaccurate (see Known Bugs below).
- You can now view a list of games a player has played.
- Clicking on any rank number will take you to the rankings list with that player highlighted.
- Added 2 buttons at the top of the page: Pantheon Tournaments and Top Players.
- "Pantheon Tournaments" button will take you to the latest (active or inactive) Pantheon tournament.
- Top Players now shows overall top players, not skirmish top players.
- Tournament information page now shows each team, the top players for that team, and the team's information.

Once again, the Pantheon statistics website is located at http://pantheon.demigodthegame.com.  I look forward to your feedback!

Bara

demigod
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Reply #151 from Demigod Forums Top

Horse:

Interesting numbers.  I wonder what they're doing.
End of quote

Obviously not :)

Reply #152 from Demigod Forums Top

I deleted your second reply DalzK.

We've thought of a solution and I'm coding it now.  We'll see about implementing it soon.

Bara

Star Control: Origins
Reply #153 from Demigod Forums Top

Note: I've pushed an update to the Pantheon site that helps to improve performance and lessen the strain on the servers.  I have added a lot of caching, so if you notice some numbers are not updating right away please wait a short while and they will be updated when the cache clears.

Bara

Reply #154 from Demigod Forums Top

Nice work Bara

Interested to see what your solution is....

Reply #155 from Demigod Forums Top

Definately a marked improvement on performance man, used to take a little while to load the pages now there's no hanging and it just zips to where I clicked :) good job

Reply #156 from Demigod Forums Top

Here's a fun bug.  I've only managed to get into one Pantheon game since the beta ended.  I won.  My stats reflect this (total games 1, total wins 1, total losses 0).  But my games list shows two games, played at almost the same time as each other and on the same map.  One of them is the game I won, and the other is a "loss" which appears to have one player (from the overview) but when I click on it I see none.

 

(EDIT: I finally managed to play another game this evening.  Now I have two wins in reality ... but the scoreboard shows me with 3 wins and 0 losses.  There's an extra win in there from another empty game)

Reply #157 from Demigod Forums Top

Ok putting info here :) my stats page is all funky lol

 

I only play Pantheon yet somehow i have custome games as well even so it shows 8 Pantheon games played yet under the touraments tab it only shows me at 4-0 still.

 

is there a bug that counts Pantheon as customs?

 

Edit- 658am est  i played a game around 1;30am est and then again around 2;30am est then 1 more at 6:30am est only the first and last games are showing in my  games list, the middle one is not showing even though it had 3 other players in it.

Reply #158 from Demigod Forums Top

Please remove those 2 minutes customgame lamer who play solo against no enemy. This nerds destroy the ranking system. Please have a look at the rankings of custom game. These kids disturb me :>

Reply #159 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting lambdaman, reply 6
Here's a fun bug.  I've only managed to get into one Pantheon game since the beta ended.  I won.  My stats reflect this (total games 1, total wins 1, total losses 0).  But my games list shows two games, played at almost the same time as each other and on the same map.  One of them is the game I won, and the other is a "loss" which appears to have one player (from the overview) but when I click on it I see none.

(EDIT: I finally managed to play another game this evening.  Now I have two wins in reality ... but the scoreboard shows me with 3 wins and 0 losses.  There's an extra win in there from another empty game)
End of lambdaman's quote

Quoting whiteskull86, reply 7
Ok putting info here my stats page is all funky lol
 
I only play Pantheon yet somehow i have custome games as well even so it shows 8 Pantheon games played yet under the touraments tab it only shows me at 4-0 still.

is there a bug that counts Pantheon as customs?

Edit- 658am est  i played a game around 1;30am est and then again around 2;30am est then 1 more at 6:30am est only the first and last games are showing in my  games list, the middle one is not showing even though it had 3 other players in it.
End of whiteskull86's quote

The duplicate game issue is a known bug.  When playing Pantheon (and possibly Skirmish) games, it for some reason creates another custom game entry in your games list.  A quick question for you two: did anyone disconnect or quit during those games that were duplicated?

Bara

Reply #160 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting GunslingerBara, reply 9
A quick question for you two: did anyone disconnect or quit during those games that were duplicated?

Bara
End of GunslingerBara's quote

 

No.  I got disconnected from a game this morning (or everyone else disconnected at the same time, but I prefer Occam's razor), and I did *not* get a duplicate entry for it; it shows me winning against the other players, despite the fact that they were all replaced by AIs.

Reply #161 from Demigod Forums Top

On counting Custom Games for purposes of Stats:

They should not be counted.  But if you don't count them then you need a happy medium between Skirmish and Custom where players can still make teams and choose maps and all other options are default.  If one then the other. Otherwise you get no ranked clan play

If you can't bring "Ladder" settings in any time soon then keep Custom games and just have games *started* against AI count for 0 rank and 0 favor.

Reply #162 from Demigod Forums Top

Man Darkness is really taking it to light right now.

 

is there a Replay feature in the works so people can post their stomping ability?

Reply #163 from Demigod Forums Top

The duplicate game issue is a known bug.  When playing Pantheon (and possibly Skirmish) games, it for some reason creates another custom game entry in your games list.  A quick question for you two: did anyone disconnect or quit during those games that were duplicated?

Bara

 

I think you miunderstand me, i don t have dupe games, i played like 15 or so patheon games but its only showing 8 at diffrent times times that did match when i played the other patheon ames are reporting as custom games for some reason.

 

And then my main page only shows 4 patheon games total played.

Reply #164 from Stardock Forums Top

Hi Bara,

I played 4 custom games this morning (only 1 had a disconnect and none had any AI). In my rankings it only shows that I have played 2 games (1 won, 1 lose). I won 3 lost 1. One of the won ones was a disconnect, but the player came back maybe a minute or less later. But that still doesn't account for the other 1 won that just don't show up.

Just so you know its not just disconnects causing games not to show up.

Reply #165 from Demigod Forums Top

update at  7:30pm est i just did another patheon game, yet my gamelist on the webtsite is counting it as a custom game.

 

is there some set number of players that have to be in a patheon game for it to count? or is this a recording bug? we had 3 one droped at the start and it ended being 1v1 with 3 AI per team.

Reply #166 from Stardock Forums Top

Something is defiantly messed up in the rankings. If you look at your top listed player razattack1337 right now. Now I am not saying he is a bad player or anything, but there is defiantly an exploit here. If you look at all of his/her games 95% of them are all 1 to 2 minute games. Maybe I am just missing something...

Reply #167 from Demigod Forums Top

LOL my last game tonight was 10:04pm est time i had 1 human teammate vrs 1 AI/human the other guy quit few minutes into the gameme we won in about 15-20m yet the website reports it as a custom game, that i lost in 2 minutes.

 

Site needs a major overhaul IMO it cant seem to get anything right lol.

Reply #168 from Demigod Forums Top

I couldn't find this answer yet, so I'll ask here where people know. 

1.)  If all opponents quit the game (mid game or later) and bots take over.  Do I still have to finish the game to get a win on Pantheon?

 

2.)  If everyone drops as soon as I enter the game, and I quit (b/c playing bots is no fun), is it a loss?

 

Thanks.

Reply #169 from Demigod Forums Top

same concern as LittleOZ; The players stats looks completly wrong: I've played only pantheon games and I've some games reported as custom games with only 1 players and set all as lost and + I'm sure I've some pantheon games lost that I've never played! It's so hard to even connect in one game that I remember the games I've played.

 

One question so: If you try to connect in a pantheon game and disconnect before the game launch (because all players can't connects) and the game finaly start, with an IA with your nicknane, will the result reported on your stats?

 

About stats, the lost seems really too handicaped. When you look to ranking, it's really frustating to see 1 guy who 've played and win only one game be in top 100 and all people with more 10 games, with more win than lost, finish in the 2000+. The number of total games played shoul be take into account.

Reply #170 from Demigod Forums Top

Found another problem, did a patheon game it went with 4 people only 2 made it in game 1v1 with 3 Ai each the guy whined out the but about me exploiting cause i killed the Ai trying to cap my flags and kill my towers, thats not the problem :)

 

Problem was he waited till his keep had less then 3k hps then quit, now my games list shows a 0minute won custom game  as a result.

 

So it seems if someone quits or disc a patheon game becomes a custom game? and it mess's up the time as well.

Reply #171 from Demigod Forums Top

Stats broken... Just won a custom game and it's reported as "LOST". It was 4vs4, get 3 disconnect during the game (2vs3 players) but it was a long battle and it's really annoying to get a lost for a win. Stats should be suspended until they are working well, because that mean nothing. Even the pantheon progress can be false...

Reply #172 from Demigod Forums Top

Stats page has to get fixed soon

Reply #173 from Demigod Forums Top

We are currently in talks with GPG in resolving the disconnect issues.  I'll keep you updated once we have them resolved.

Quoting HaunterV, reply 12
Man Darkness is really taking it to light right now.

is there a Replay feature in the works so people can post their stomping ability?
End of HaunterV's quote

I think a replay feature already exists, but I'm not sure how  to get to it.  Try searching the forums, I'm sure you'll find something.

Quoting whiteskull86, reply 13

The duplicate game issue is a known bug.  When playing Pantheon (and possibly Skirmish) games, it for some reason creates another custom game entry in your games list.  A quick question for you two: did anyone disconnect or quit during those games that were duplicated?
Bara

I think you miunderstand me, i don t have dupe games, i played like 15 or so patheon games but its only showing 8 at diffrent times times that did match when i played the other patheon ames are reporting as custom games for some reason.

And then my main page only shows 4 patheon games total played.
End of whiteskull86's quote

Your main page stats likely updated.  We have a job that runs at midnight that calculates most of the stats.  Check it again and let me know.  Your other issue seems to be a common one as well: games being marked as custom games even if they weren't.  It's an odd bug, to be sure.  I'll see what I can do.

Quoting Rhah, reply 16
Something is defiantly messed up in the rankings. If you look at your top listed player razattack1337 right now. Now I am not saying he is a bad player or anything, but there is defiantly an exploit here. If you look at all of his/her games 95% of them are all 1 to 2 minute games. Maybe I am just missing something...
End of Rhah's quote

Yes, it's an exploit that some players have been taking advantage of.  See below.

Quoting Ke5trel, reply 11
On counting Custom Games for purposes of Stats:

They should not be counted.  But if you don't count them then you need a happy medium between Skirmish and Custom where players can still make teams and choose maps and all other options are default.  If one then the other. Otherwise you get no ranked clan play

If you can't bring "Ladder" settings in any time soon then keep Custom games and just have games *started* against AI count for 0 rank and 0 favor.
End of Ke5trel's quote

I talked to Frogboy and he is ok with not counting custom games in the overall rankings.  We will also be implementing some limits, like you mentioned (1 human player in a game will not count the stats at all).

Quoting Takkik, reply 21
Stats broken... Just won a custom game and it's reported as "LOST". It was 4vs4, get 3 disconnect during the game (2vs3 players) but it was a long battle and it's really annoying to get a lost for a win. Stats should be suspended until they are working well, because that mean nothing. Even the pantheon progress can be false...
End of Takkik's quote

Can you link me to this game, please?

Bara

Reply #174 from Demigod Forums Top

here it is : http://pantheon.demigodthegame.com/game/167031/player/18960/

It's the game that was normaly win. Stanco on the other team left/drop and on my team there was only me + ferretous at the end.