who's chasing vasari?

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Despite great economy of TEC and great strikecraft of Advent, Vasari still remain my favourite race in this wonderful game. They just have this unique elite feel and phase stabilizers making the game so much more comfortable to play... Anyway, there's one thing that bugs me about them.

I enjoyed their story a lot (after I actually read the manual after all those days of playing...) but there's one thing i'm failing to understand.

The guys who destroyed Vasari empire and are still chasing them, who are they? I doubt it's actually Advent, they don't seem strong enough to do what happened to Vasari...

Or maybe there's a fourth race planned for this game, a probable expansion pack material? Is there somewhere more reading material on the world except what we have in our manuals? I really like this universe and would enjoy learning more lore of it. Especially about those guys who killed Vasari empire.
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Reply #1 from Sins Forums Top
the new race for the expansion pack would be my guess.
Reply #2 from Sins Forums Top
On wiki I read:

"In recent times the Vasari entered the scene as they fled from their Xeno enemy."

So, who are those Xeno guys? Do we know something about them? And how do wiki guys know more? Where did they take it from?
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Reply #3 from Sins Forums Top
xeno is the term used for alien...its not really what they are called though

like xenoartifact is an alien artifact..so we still have no idea who is chasing them
Reply #4 from Sins Forums Top
Even though everyone is saying that, it doesn't make sense. Why would the Vasari flee from some terrifying enemy, if they can fight on even ground in the expansion? (The Vasari might choose to ally with the other races though) It might happen though, but still... it would be foolish.
Also, usually in games like that when the original races ally to fight a really strong opponent, there has to be a story. Seeing as there isn't a fixed story campaign in sins, I doubt that there will be some sort of a alliance happening any time soon. And I'm having a hard time imagining the advent and "humans" allying, or any race combination really. It's just so far fetched.
Reply #5 from Sins Forums Top
Whelp, seems you'll be waiting for the expansion.
Reply #6 from Sins Forums Top
Well. If your whole empire just fell down like a house of cards and all you have left from your fleet were single ships with insane from fear crews... you would be at least worried, wouldn't you?

That's why i'm so interested in this race. They must be really cool if they managed to scare the crap out of Vasari who aren't that nice themselves...
Reply #7 from Stardock Forums Top
Why don't the Vasari just move along like they've been doing, and let the humans and bizarro-humans fight it out? And, if the bizarro-humans are so smart, why did it take them 1000 years to create fighting technology that the regular humans could match in a generation? or maybe 2.

No, I'm not trying to get

AgroStitch
Reply #8 from Sins Forums Top
Its the Bentusi. The Unbound who fled there galaxy from the great destroyer used the Vasari's phase tests as an anchor to jump to the Vasari/TEC/Advent galaxy. Upon arriving there were set upon by the Vasari home-guard which sent the already shaken Bentusi into a fit of desperate rage and they proceeded to decimate the home systems.  :D 
Reply #9 from Sins Forums Top
Why don't the Vasari just move along like they've been doing, and let the humans and bizarro-humans fight it out? And, if the bizarro-humans are so smart, why did it take them 1000 years to create fighting technology that the regular humans could match in a generation? or maybe 2.No, I'm not trying to getAgroStitch
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It's because they have to stop every so often and raid systems for the resources they need to make the next leg of there trip. But they have been expending resources as fast as they can build them up fighting the humans. So they can't leave.
Reply #10 from Sins Forums Top
Its the Bentusi. The Unbound who fled there galaxy from the great destroyer used the Vasari's phase tests as an anchor to jump to the Vasari/TEC/Advent galaxy. Upon arriving there were set upon by the Vasari home-guard which sent the already shaken Bentusi into a fit of desperate rage and they proceeded to decimate the home systems.   
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....this thread is now over. Everyone go back to your daily routines.
Reply #11 from Sins Forums Top
Its me. Im chasing them.
Reply #12 from Sins Forums Top
Who scared the vasari into running?
Kramer222 scared the vasari into running!


Who me?


Yeah you!

Couldn't be!

Then who?

Overlordjebus scared the vasari into running!


Who me?


Yeah you!


Couldn't be!


Then who?

Windexglow scared the vasari into running!
Reply #13 from Sins Forums Top
I keep thinking of something like the Dread Lords from Gal Civ 2....
Reply #14 from Sins Forums Top
I am Fear Incarnate.
Reply #16 from Sins Forums Top
Barnie!!!
Reply #18 from Sins Forums Top
According to the intro movie, an experimental mobile weapon's lab activated something (looked like a phase gate) 10,000 years ago. So the Vasari have been running for almost ten centuries.

It's probably that this race is either a civilization that exists within phase space, or exits on the other side of the galaxy, or universe. It seems like to me, that since the Vasari have had no contact with the enemy other than to drive them insane, that they aren't your typical race.

Even the Vasari communicated with their subjugated races, and they did experience the occaisional rebellion. Safe to say, that no matter how much two factions hate each other, they do communicate.

So, in my opinion, the unknown race the Vasari are fleeing from are either a machine-type race, either the result of some creative race or a race themselves that integrated themself, or a hive-type race, like the zerg or ants (but they use real ships, no organic ships, please!).

On a parting note, you should take game values with a grain of salt when applying them to backstory. Ironclad HAD to balance the game--they couldn't make it so the Vasari could roll over everyone at 1:3 odds, or that the Advent are easily able to kick TEC's keister's all along the front.

Really, the only reason the TEC has been able to resist the Vasari is became one they're so freakin' rich and they're so freakin' big. They have almost unlimited manpower and probably massive infrastructure in place for resources and ship construction. The Vasari are, essentially, limited to the, at most, few hundred million of them that escaped. This figure may have increased or decreased, drastically in some cases, depending on how they breed and what sacrifices they had to made on their journey. However, each ship that they lose to the TEC is a ship they can't readily replace, especially the crew.
Reply #19 from Sins Forums Top
Tyranids.
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Best post in the thread.


And Warhammer 40k owns.
Reply #20 from Sins Forums Top
I think it's Pink Pony!
Reply #21 from Sins Forums Top
I think it was the Jedis
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lol

btw did u check the "lore" section of the website? on the top right.
Reply #22 from Sins Forums Top
Damn it. Someone beat me to Tyranids, hehe.

In the opening movie it shows some Vassari experiment appearing to go wrong. Perhaps that has something to do with it.
Reply #24 from Sins Forums Top
Perhaps it is some sort of passive overseer race that observes from distant phase space. Perhaps they have been sailing the stars since before the humans or even the vasari evolved past their primitive ancestors. Maybe these guys are so advanced they stay out of sight and only interfere when a sentient race takes to the stars that is just too damn warlike for the good of the universe. Seeing the Vasari and their conquering ways, maybe they decided it was time to put an end that happy horse crap and have been chasing them ever since.

Then again, i could be wrong.
Reply #25 from Sins Forums Top
Miniature giant space hamsters.

The one surviving crew was driven mad by the sight of said hamsters nibbling their way through the hulls of their fleet and tearing at the bridge crews' eyes in fearsome, maddening hamsterish ways.