AI/Diplomacy woes

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Got 1.02 patch installed

Ok so I am playing a map (centrifuge I think at work can't look now) on hard with 6 teams 5 AI and me. I have been trying to ally with the AI but the happiness system is messed. I complete a mission and get 35% happiness (I got diplomacy research maxed playing as tec) then I check back in a few minutes and it is back to 0% and a new mission is posted (I didn't miss any missions I am positive, even if I did I think my loss only should be 15%).

Also the AI seems to like attacking me at the same time at all angles and they NEVER shoot at each other even if they happen to show up in the same spot. Once I went by planets and planted some remote sensors and watched as ships showed up of all different races and they never shot at each other. I know that everyone is on different teams.. can the AI ally with each other? If they can why the heck is everyone allied with everyone else only when I am looking at them (they seem to be  fighting each other when I can't see them since some empires seem to be dominating the rest).

 

Any ideas ? I really don't want to have to start this map over again since I have spent so much time staying alive.

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Reply #1 from Sins Forums Top
Just to note I have had the happiness working before (I think it could have been before I installed the patch) on a map with 6+ AI on normal (maybe this issue only effects hard mode). I actually allied with a couple AI for a bit.
Reply #2 from Sins Forums Top
The diplomacy is flawed getting the happiness, but once its pass 80%, then it works well with having a decent ally and also other factions forming alliances against the two bigger factions.

Kye.
Sins of a Solar Empire II
Reply #3 from Sins Forums Top
Ok but how do I get it to 80% if it drops to 0% all the time after completing a mission I can't get it past 35% without it dropping to 0% right away. Also any ideas on why the AI ships don't shoot each other.
Reply #4 from Sins Forums Top
One thing that maybe happening is, once you have 35%, you have a bit of allegiance, but you can only commence a cease-fire at about 50%.

If you are in combat with said foe, and you are attacking his ships, allegiance will drop to 0%.

I have had the diplomacy window open and seen it drop from 35 to 0 realtime.

At the moment i'm playing a random huge map. And with a foe about 2 stars away from me, but with 2 completed missions, i get 60% allegiance, more than enough for a definite agreement on a cease-fire. Once you get higher, could be you need 95% , maybe he'll commit to peace-treaty, and you could even try planet view and ship view.
I have a game running for about 13 and half hours, and have had 2 full allies for about 4 to 5 hours each.

Trying to push forward while managing 2 star systems you already captured, now that's a bitch :P
Reply #5 from Sins Forums Top
The Ai realy hate it when you shoot down its ships(who dont).
Offer "cease fire" when you can, dont remember the % needed but its low.
Reply #6 from Sins Forums Top
You may be right about shooting at his ships. They have ships all over the place though so it is nearly impossible for me to avoid shooting at them. Like they have explorer ships all through my territory that I am always shooting at. It is flawed it shouldn't automatically drop to 0% or maybe once you pass 1 mission it should default to a neutral status where you won't automatically shoot at each other.

I will try offering a cease fire right away if I can.. it is going to be very difficult if not impossible if I have to wait till 50% since one of the stupid explorer ships will pass through my territory.

The muliple attacks seem crazy too. I could have a bunch of different AI player fleets attack the same territory at the same time and they NEVER shoot at each other. Sometimes they all get there and they seem to be like "holy crap this is nutts I am getting otta here" then they jump away but other times they all keep on attacking just me not each other.

The AI really should start shooting at each other when they get to the same planet if they are not on the same team. Think about it if you jumped your fleet into a zone with two different AI player fleets your fleet would automatically start attacking both of them.

Great game but these two problems are making this map nearly impossible for me to beat. I could see if a map was impossible to beat because the AI was too good but this is just because this aspect of the game is really buggy.