Box or no box???

Your call, either way. It is slightly more expensive to get it shipped to you, but if you order it at the moment you can still get the collectors edition (I think), which has some extra goodies.

I'm in the Netherlands, and not a single gamestore here seems to know about Sins. Those that do know it, don't have it, some have offered to specially order Sins, which puts the price at exactly the same as getting a box from the online store, but without goodies.

Doesn't surprise me Alcari -- they're currently discussing things with a European publisher to get it out to Europe.

get the box!

If you're in the Euro zone, a simple calculation may make you pre-oder the game from Stardock. The collector's edition including download from SDC plus shipping costs 60 USD. With the the Dollar's current weakness that's less than 45 EUR, even with credit card fees for international transactions.
The German standard price for a game is between 45 and 50 EUR. Collector's edtions usually go for 55 to 65 EUR. I expect prices to be comparable in most of the Euro zone.
Do you need any more arguments to pre-order instead of waiting for a European reseller to become available?

Prices are indeed comparable. That is exactly the same calculation I made when I pre-ordered mine, about two weeks after it became possible

So what about the people that are doing the BEta and have already preordered? Do we get a box? How about a manual? PDF at least?

Which Version did you preorder?
There are download only and download + box...

By the way, you really took the wrong name

Oh yes i will upgrade my orderer preorder (only download) to the collectors editon.

I hope someone can say me witch i have to do.

erm another question... what region is the disk? NTSC, PAL? or am i talking out of my bhind??

Yes, you are talking out of your behind. It's not a movie you're buying and PC's don't have the retarded zone system consoles have.

Cheers...