Auto-Pilot and Automated Ships Don't Use Their Moves Efficiently.

Oddly, you can double-click them in the ship list to force them to move, though.

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Galactic Civilization II: Gold Edition

I noticed this today when I tried to set a course for a colony ship by clicking on a far away planet. Every turn, the ship simply sat there, wasting its moves (3/3, two ion engines). I kept waiting to get a new planet but the dumb thing just sat there, even with a visible trail to its destination. However, opening up the ship list and double clicking on it made it move. I had to do this every turn to get it to continue on its course to the planet.

I've also noticed that auto-surveyed flag ships and automated mining ships wait to their next turn. For instance, you set them to automated or auto survey, come back and when your Turn button is green, they will still have turns left! They aren't using their turns effectively, it's a waste.
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Reply #1 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
I have run into this bug also. I click the ship and the "mission" (what I want it to do or the place I want it to go), and it wont move. This was corrected in my games by clicking again. I have noticed however that they move automatically as soon as they accept the command. I feel your pain. My colony ship with better engines and closer to the intended planet, lost to one of my allies colony ships when I did not notice that it was not moving  .
Reply #2 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
It doesn't happen to me all the time, but it does happen every now and again. There are also times when a ship will land on a planet on the way to its destination, and you are never told, but you're relying on the auto-pilot to go where you said. Instead, it just orbits the planet and you never know until you pull up the ship list and find it there, or see a shield on one of your planets (unless that planet usually has ships on it, and then you're clueless). When I command a ship to go somewhere, I expect it to go there, not land on a planet like some drooling fool.
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Reply #3 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
All ships on auto-anything move when you hit the end turn button. I've never had any problem.
Reply #4 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
I've also noticed that auto-surveyed flag ships and automated mining ships wait to their next turn. For instance, you set them to automated or auto survey, come back and when your Turn button is green, they will still have turns left! They aren't using their turns effectively, it's a waste.

There are few different things going on. As nullspace mentioned ships on auto-pilot (usually) move at the end of the turn when you press end turn, but there are a number of situations where things don't work as they're supposed to.

This has been a problem in v1.2, v1.3 and v1.4. I haven't played DA yet so I don't know how it works there. What rev of the game are you playing?

When things work properly, the ship (or fleet) moves when you first set the auto-pilot destination but thereafter only moves on end turn. This should really make no difference since your auto-pilot movement occurs before any of the AI's ships move, so if your colony ship could beat an AI's colony ship to a planet if moved manually it should still beat the AI's ship if on auto-pilot.

Another thing that I've seen happen is that if the distance is large (I'm talking from one end of a gigantic galaxy to the other) the ship will take the auto-pilot destination but never move. If you move the ship manually until it gets closer to it's destination, then at some point auto-pilot will start working normally. I'm noticing this on v1.4 but I've never seen this on previous revs.

Another thing that can happen is that if you save the game and later reload it, you may find some ships have simply 'forgotten' their auto-pilot destination. This has been happening on all revs AFAIK.

The final problem is related but involves the auto-launch function to a rally point set for the colony that produces the ship. In this case again for no apparent reason, ships auto-launch but just sit there by the planet that produced them. If you go back and check you'll see there's no destination set for the ship even though the rally point is set for the planet. This also happens on all revs that I've played.

All of these problems seem to be related to the number of ships on auto-pilot and the size of the galaxy. Although all of these issues can occur randomly, they are far more likely the turn immediately following a load game. I've just gotten into the habit of moving every ship by hand on the turn following a load game.

I've heard anecdotal testimony that there is an auto-pilot timeout that will cut off the auto-pilot movement phase if it takes too long. This may cause the problem to occur more or less frequently based on the performance of your system. To me this is probably the biggest problem with the game. Functionality that isn’t reliable isn’t much better than no functionality at all. Auto-pilot and auto-launch to a rally point are great features that can significantly ease the micro-management pain in this game, but only if they work reliably first time, every time, otherwise they’re just useless baggage. I’ve been hopeful that this gets fixed in DA.
Reply #5 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Actually there's another related thing that can happen. When setting an autopilot destination to a location that already has ships present (such as a rally point). Sometimes the autopilot destination will be set to the point is space and sometimes the destination will be set to a ship/fleet that's sitting at that point in space. You can see the different destinations when looking at the details of the ship/fleet on autopilot.

If a ship/fleet gets set as the autopilot destination of another ship/fleet, and if that destination ship/fleet moves, then the ship/fleet on autopilot will turn and 'follow' the first ship/fleet. This is annoying but can be humorous as well. I don't think this is a bug and is 'working as designed' but it's something you should be aware of.
Reply #6 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
One final rant about autopilot. Has anyone else noticed that autopilot doesn't always take a minimum length path? Most times it does OK around any fixed obstructions (stars and planets) but not always. Most often the problem occurs when the ship encounters another ship on it's autopilot path and zigs instead of zags.

In any case for whatever the reason I've seen ships that could have made a destination if moved by hand fall up to 5 parsec's short when moved on autopilot. However, this is the least of the annoyances related to autopilot.

Someone please tell me that all these issues have been fixed on DA.
Reply #7 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Someone please tell me that all these issues have been fixed on DA.


OK Mumble, I could happily tell you that they have all been fixed in DA. Only problem there is: I'd be lying - because they haven't.

All autopilot bugs are still present and accounted for in DA, exactly as you have described.   

P.S. there's also a new one that occasionally occurs involving asteroids - but I'm sure you'll have fun finding it.
Reply #8 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
OK Mumble, I could happily tell you that they have all been fixed in DA. Only problem there is: I'd be lying - because they haven't.

Damn. Oh well. We really wouldn't be happy if there wasn't *something* to complain about, would we.   
Reply #9 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Has anyone else noticed that autopilot doesn't always take a minimum length path?


Someone please tell me that all these issues have been fixed on DA.


Sorry to say, this still happens in DA. It doesn't even seem that there has to be an actual object in the way of the flight path... they just make their own route even if it isn't the shortest distance between the two points.

Damn, Magnumaniac beat me to it! And I wanted to burst the bubble of hope for you Mumblefratz...
Reply #10 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
And I wanted to burst the bubble of hope for you Mumblefratz...   

Hope springs eternal. There's always the next rev.