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My vid card works not too well, can DA aloow even not-too-good cards work? Like freelancer, it is 3d, and has an entier solar system with SO MANY DETAILS and my card takes it easy.
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It would help to know what video card you have. There are quite a few options you can turn off to even get a geforce 4 to run the game, it just isn't real pretty.
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I have a geforce 4:

NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440 with AGP8X
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Your talking bare minumum graphics on that card and probably you'll have to stick with smaller maps. I have seen a few people on here running one, but they also seem to be on here about either no textures, or crashing. A MX line geforce 4 is like running a slightly faster geforce 2. You'd be better off picking up a card for $50 that will be a big upgrade from what you have.
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But I can't because my computer doesn't have a video card port big enough for a better card.
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But I can't because my computer doesn't have a video card port big enough for a better card.


But above you had said.

NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440 with AGP8X


I thought you meant an independant card running off an AGP slot. Is it integrated to the mobo? Even if it is, do you have a PCI slot available? You can get a PCI card that would be an upgrade, albiet not as much as you can get from a AGP interface.
Can't offer much advice beyond that though.

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Is there anything like a Graphics card adapter? Im not good at this stuff.

Note that I am updating my drivers now...
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No such thing as an adapter between graphic card interfaces, sorry.
Either the mb supports it or it doesn't.

But I don't think the MX440 came as integrated video, so you probably have the AGP slot on your mb. And there are several inexpensive AGP cards that will perform much better.
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what about just getting DA to need less good cards?
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DA will have the same requirements.
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You should upgrade your hardware to something above bare minimum.
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No, they really shouldn't lower the requirements. Your card is going on 4 years old, if you can afford to buy the game you can afford a new video card ($50 should do it).

They are very easy to install, you can plug in a cartridge and tighten a couple of screws, can't you?

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They should lower the requirments.


Actually compared to other current games the requirements aren't real high to have a pleasant experience. Take F.E.A.R. for example, I was getting 15 frames per second in that game, yet could run GCII pretty well full on without issue. I have a GeForce MX440 sitting in my closet, right along with a Ti 4600, some Radeon model, and a FX5500. The MX 440 was five cards ago, so it is really outdated.

Now back to your problem, if you have GCII installed you can get the debug.err from it's directory and copy and paste the first part in a reply here. The part that shows your system specs. I suspect you have an AGP slot that your MX440 is using. If you do, it opens a lot of upgrade options for you.
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You should upgrade your hardware to something above bare minimum.


Agreed. That card is ancient and it was craptacular when it was new, like DethAdder said the GF4MX is no better than a GF2. You cant honestly expect to play current generation games well with such technology.

Does the game run, but just slowly? Your not missing textures or anything?
Go to options and turn off all the extra graphical settings (just move the first slider down to poor)

Dont know how much system memory you have but make sure you kill all extra processes before starting the game, and make your page file larger (this can be crucial if you have a small amount of system RAM as I see my memory usage go over 1.2Gb on gigantic).
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I suspect you have an AGP slot that your MX440 is using.


Actually it's entirely possible he has no AGP slot at all.
The NVidia nforce 2 IGP chipset mobos had an integrated 440MX chip which would be worse than an actual AGP card because the integrated chip steals bandwith from the rest of the system does not have its own dedicated memory, it would be sharing it(meaning he would actully have up to 128mb less sytem memory). The system would actually report it the same as a regualar agp card although it isnt.

Alot of the OEMs at the time used boards without an actual agp slot and adding a pci gfx card to such a board requires some pc knowledge (enough to navigate a BIOS and disable the onboard gfx and set the pci to primary anyway)
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What first slider too poor. Im missing the textures. games runs just as should otherwise.
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The slider he speaks of is in the DA beta, in regular GCII you just have to tick all the little disable boxes.
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What first slider too poor. Im missing the textures. games runs just as should otherwise.


In game options under video tab slider says video quality
Also set the resolution to the lowest possible
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The slider he speaks of is in the DA beta, in regular GCII you just have to tick all the little disable boxes.


ahh sorry didnt realize that was a new feature
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I run the game on 2-3yr old intergrated graphics (shudders  )
It works reasonably well on smaller maps, but on anything above medium, it slows to a grinding halt. Nothing older than 2 years can expect to see anything close to medium graphic capability on 99% of current games.

Some cards work better than others, depending on not only the card itself, but also on DRIVERS. Its a good idea to look for new ones which may be needed to unlock some features.

Seriously, the personal effect of graphics varies, depending on how much you rely on graphics for a good experiance. Sure, it'll look prettier and play cleaner and faster, but that's abour it.

Remember, if the CPU or other parts are slow, there's a limit on what a newer card can do for performance.
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I run the game on a 3 year old laptop with a Mobility Radeon 9000. I basically have to play zoomed out to tactical level all the time and the battle viewer is a slide show, but the game itself is still fun. I usually play medium maps, but have been able to finish games (enjoyably) on gigantic.
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If you have an AGP or PCIE slot, you should be able to find a good video card for whatever budget you have. Buy based on how much you can afford. You can get nVidia's 6 series cheap, and with the 8 series out, it's just gonna get cheaper. There's not much of an excuse to not have at least a 6 series (or equivalent) card anymore.

If you have an old PCI slot, however, have no fear: The GeForce 6200 comes in a PCI version. It's not the greatest, and it has some video problems on my brother's computer (older drivers actually seem to work better than newer ones on his), but it should be enough to play GalCiv II. The old PCI bus, however, is going to place a severe bottleneck on everything, and you still won't get the performance of an equivalent card on an AGP or PCIE bus.

Personally, if you have only PCI slots, I suggest saving up money towards a new computer.
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They should lower the requirments.


Can't wait to see what Evil and Wheel say when they see this.

Freelancer requirements.

Microsoft® Windows® 98/Me/XP/2000
PC with 600 MHz equivalent or higher processor
128 MB of system RAM
900 MB available hard disk space
8x speed or faster CD-ROM drive
16 MB video card required
Sound card, speakers or headphones required for audio
Microsoft Mouse or compatible pointing device
56 Kbps modem for online/multiplayer; LAN or broadband to run a server

GC II
Minimum Requirements
Windows 98/ME/2000/XP.
Pentium III 800Mhz or equivalent processor.
256MB RAM, 32MB DirectX 9.0c compatible video card.

Recommended Requirements
Windows XP or later.
Pentium 4 1.8 GHz or equivalent processor.
512MB RAM, 128MB DirectX 9.0c compatible video card.

A bit of difference I'd say. Either buying it online or off the shelf the requirements were available for you.