AI Behavior concerning expansion in Beta

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I played a recent game in which the AI elected not to expand except to the planet within its own system. All of the computer players did this, not just one. They all had only two planets, and I had around 10-15 and more on the way. This behavior seems to have stuck in my games and I can't figure out why the AI is doing that. It was on beginner difficulty, and I've played beginner level games before. They don't take that long to colonize. Nowhere near. I had level IV lasers, sensor techs, engine techs, etc.

I'm assuming it's a bug, but really, why was this game released? I don't think I've ever seen a game with so many bugs in it. I know Stardock is a small company compared to most other gaming companies, but you guys could've used beta testers or something....Instead we have to suffer through random bugs that some people experience and others don't, waiting on updates that just cause more bugs. Quit trying to improve the damn game and fix the bugs so it's playable. Then worry about improving the game.

It's really hard to make something better when you can't use it in the first place.

Another thing. My bloody ship designs just dissappeared. Great. ALL OF THEM. None of them are listed in the tech tree as being possible upgrades. The cheat mode doesn't work either, so I can't research everything just to see if they're there. This is f'ing crazy Stardock. Sure, this game has potential, but it is not finished yet. It's not even playable half the time.

If I could trade in this copy for just about any other remotely interesting game out there right now, I would. Updates are seemingly barely tested. The only thing that works is the shipbuilder, and that barely works.

In the words of Bill Cosby: " Can you put this back?...It needs to cook, maybe another three months or something."
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Reply #2 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Wait wait, you're playing the beta update and you're complaing that you're experiencing bugs? Now what difficulty setting are you running at?

O yes, you didn't happen to click the core ships only button did you? It will only display the core designs when you do that until you either click the button that displays both or the player made only button.
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Reply #3 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
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I know I'm new here but honestly, does this even need to be said?

It's. A. Beta. That means it's still in freaking development. As it's publicly available for download that makes you the beta tester; they are expecting you to break the program in beta so they can find the bugs in order to fix them. This is traditionally what a public beta is supposed to be.

If you do not want to operate as a beta tester then the answer is simple; Don't. Download. The. Public. Beta.

Sorry for the brusque reply.
Reply #4 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Agreed. People complaining about *possible* bugs in a BETA version truly baffles me.
Reply #7 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Taken from another thread, but feel it applies to the OP here too.
Ass hat.


Beginner level ?? HELLO YOU ARE PLAYING ON RETARD LEVEL!! So stop complaining the AI is slow. IT's supposed to be.. UP your difficulty.

NOW. TO refute your assertions about bugginess. First off, the game did have beta testers before its release and it even had a private gamma before. At which point people said it was "ready" but Stardock held onto it a week more and refined/polished it further. The released version is very stable. What you assert is a bug is actually a feature or designed that way. The AI is crippled to move slower, do dumb things and give total newbies a chance at playing.
The AI does colonize, and even designs ships to make their colonizers faster when you play on higher difficulty levels.
"Intelligent" is the setting where the AI is on an even course with the Human player, no restrictions.

I totally disagree with you. The game is not doomed and its not buggy.

It sounds like you have a serious problem. No, not the insult you were thinking, but have you tried re-installing the game or latest patch? The game is playable all the time. Do you have the latest video drivers ?? before you go any further check to see that you do. That is so critical, you will have problems if they're a year old.

UPDATES are thoroughly tested. Don't complain about the beta *Insults Deleted*. People who know what BETA means and agrees to test, send in reports and debug files pave the way to that point. If you don't want to encounter bug/crash don't download the BETA version. It is just that, a test version. You will be fine with the latest released version. You will have to wait for it (the beta version ) to be official and then download it.

Reply #8 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Its a Beta version of the upcoming Patch, the Release version has fewer bugs in it. The Beta needs some time for the Devs to find and fix the problems that happens when they are trying to update it. I recommend you play the Release version 1.0x with the Bonus Pack until they can flesh out the game balance for this upcoming patch that is currently in Beta.
Reply #9 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
The OP is an asshat but he does have a point with the AI acting strangely or not doing anything on occasion. I played through the campaign on normal and on the last mission the Dreadlords did nothing at all, absolutely nothing, they had one planet, which they had about 2 buildings on and didn't build a single ship or anything else the entire game, needless to say that mission was a cakewalk and a big dissapointment compared to the extremely fun and challenging missions preceeding it - making the game ending a bit of an anti climax.

That said it's the only major bug I've come across and the custom games are always extremely fun to play, especially on the harder difficulty levels.
Reply #11 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
But without trying the AI at other levels on the same settings he hasn't managed to identify that it is an AI problem at all.
Reply #12 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Only a complete idiot would write complaining about the AI on beginner level! After all it's designed to be easy!

Most PC games these days once released are buggy and Gal Civ is more complicated than most PC games in the first place. Stardock has player support second to very few other games, and in my personal opinion is the best I have seen. Perhaps you should think a little before expressing stupid opinions.

I second, third and fourth the comment above....

Ass hat.!
Reply #13 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Another thing. My bloody ship designs just dissappeared. Great. ALL OF THEM.


Did you play as a different race? or a different ship style? If so, then its a different set of ship parts so of course your parts won't appear.

As for the rest, I agree with what everyone else said. Beta. Beginner Level.
Reply #15 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
I love this damn game. He is probably from another company doing drive by slams on the game. What a retard.


Heres another ass hat for him: ))
Reply #16 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
GalCiv II runs a lot better than Oblivion... *rolls eyes*


Ha ha Kanil, I agree with that sentiment.

As for the OP, I think its been pretty well covered here and in other threads made by the ill informed.
Reply #17 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
I couldn't play the non beta version due to the damned trade bug crash. I was trying to avoid the bedamned beta. What was I supposed to do about that? Save every round and keep all my planets garrisoned to shoot down any and all rogue game crashing freighters? I had more than one game that literally couldn't go forward b/c the AI decided to start trading with me before I had a military in place that could've possibly stopped them. I couldn't embargo the race unless they were already trading with me. SO that game was basically shot b/c of a bug, that a small patch explicitly for it could've fixed. Now I have to contend with the beta....They should've release bug/advancement patches or something.
Reply #18 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
Oh noes! A beta makes the game act weird! The sky is falling!

Seriously, Frogboy, you need to pick about 100 to 200 mature users, make them your beta testers, and not bother releasing them to the public. I know you'll be more testers by releasing it to the public, but you'll also get more retards posting moronic drivel like this.

Oh, and OP, RTFPN (read the *beep*ing patch notes). They've deliberately dumbed down the AI on easier levels as some people were having problems on easy levels. If it too easy, then maybe you need *gasp* a higher difficulty level? I mean, playing it on one of the lowest with a half dozen higher options out there might indicate it'll act better if you crank it up a notch or two?
Reply #19 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
As for the AI at beginner level. I've played on the exact same setting before in the BETA!!!! They were never that slow. I had a military and all sorts of crazy **** and they each had TWO planets. I wasn't even able to light a candle in normal. I don't know anything about the AI. It might not be a bug. But an AI that moves that slow. A preschooler randomly clicking could beat them, and that difficulty is like, two or three up from the bottom.
Reply #20 from GalCiv2 Forums Top
couldn't play the non beta version due to the damned trade bug crash.


Hrm. Sucks to be you, I don't have this 'trade bug crash' you speak of. Have you uninstalled/reinstalled to see if this clears things up?