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Intel Core i7 975 Extreme Edition Processor Review

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Intel Core i7 975 Extreme Edition Processor Review

http://hothardware.com/Articles/Intel-Core-i7-975-Extreme-Edition-Processor-Review/
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         "The New Extreme Processors'"

Just when you bought that new computer with the newest CPU and all the goodies.

They come out with even better stuff as usually they do.

I've seen and heard of other developments for such as the i5 and another new i7 for a LGA1156 socket is all in the makings.

But and where is that Nahalem i7 at so far? They play the game it seems for the money at all given points. Such as lets do EX first and let the i7 expand a bit more.

Personally I think the i7 has better properties for being the chip of chips. But what are the problems yet to be told?

You can go over some of this review here I've found to help those people that want to over clock and design their systems a bit. But I'm still waiting till they finish the testing and all that good hard work before I really jump in and buy a new system for i7 right now. There is too much going on in the way designs are flowing from the chip designers to put a real handle on what is the best out there.

Oh and the price too! I'm sure if it ever gets really close with that Nahalem i7 chip being finished. It will cost you and the boards too will be the same high priced. Always is for a good product.

Anyway check it out and lets see if anyone has info as to where all this will be going and how soon will that chip of chips be on the market?

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Reply #26 from Demigod Forums Top

Nvidia has the best card on the market right now, but the 4870x2 is $150 cheaper for a not very noticable difference. Crossfire works better then SLI (you can crossfire different cards, you can't with SLI.. and it seems to scale better as well, see: 4870 crossfire vs gtx 285 SLI)
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I never said they weren't making money, I said they haven't had the fastest card ever since the 9700 Pro. As far as I can tell, Crossfire and SLI both scale terrible with the exception of a few minor games.

Regardless, anyone can make chips faster and cheaper, but Nvidia has done things outside that realm. Please do some research before trying to call me out. Notice how I post links for my claims.

AMD implemented GDDR5 first, another thing which Nvidia hasn't even caught up on a year later.

AMD were also the first out with 40nm cards in the 4770, while Nvidia are still delaying their 40nm cards.
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Do you even know what these implications are? DDR5? 40nm? I don't think I am the one talking out of my ass. The fact that ATI has faster ram and smaller feature size means nothing since they are STILL getting out performed by older technology.

Reply #27 from Sins Forums Top

AMD currently only has one 40nm card out, and it's a midrange card. They have GDDR5 but a smaller bus size to keep costs down. They're profitable, and they aren't winning in performance, but Nvidia has -one- card up on them. It's not that big a deal. The fact that nvidia can't even get their own midrange 40nm/dx10.1 cards out is proof that their design isn't very scalable, while ATI is having no problems.

Oh, let's also get to mentioning. Sure, Nvidia is indeed the performance king, but let's not forget that Nvidia's cards are massive comparatively to ATI, and use far more power. http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=3341&p=2

So yeah, Nvidia's winning, but a) only with one card, and b) technologically inferior designs that take far more power then ATI cards (See http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/9225-palit-radeon-hd-4870-x2-2gb-video-card-review-21.html)

So we can draw the conclusion here, that although nvidia are certainly (but barely) winning in performance, ATI is the leader of graphics -technology-, introducing the newest tech (55nm, 40nm, GDDR5, dx10.1) well before nvidia.

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Reply #28 from Demigod Forums Top

Oh, let's also get to mentioning. Sure, Nvidia is indeed the performance king, but let's not forget that Nvidia's cards are massive comparatively to ATI, and use far more power.
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http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-geforce-price,2323-5.html

I can't find the original article, but they refer to it

"Nvidia's GeForce GTX 295 with SLI-on-a-card is the most powerful single graphics card on the planet. With two attached GeForce GTX 275 cards that have been merged, the GeForce GTX 295 offers very notable gains over the Radeon HD 4870 X2 in the great majority of game titles. Even more impressive is that it does so while consuming less power than ATI's flagship card, which is no small feat."

On top of that, if you are going top of the line, again power and heat are a non-issue. It is like, if I buy a Ferrari, do I care if it gets 5 miles per gallon? No, I care it looks awsome and goes screaming fast. If I cared about gas milage, I would buy a Prius.

And again, ATI fans, I am not saying they are a bad company. I own 3 ATI machines my self. I even own a AMD machine on top of that. However, if you look beyond gaming Nvidia is putting a lot of focus on GPGPU. Also many of you cite DX 10.1 or DX 11. THese are just silly API standards microsoft puts out. These are standards that Microsoft decides should be in their next graphics API. In general, there is very little if not no inovation here because before standards are adpoted, they are already pressent in current graphics technology.

Let me explain:

1. Fog is cool so graphics companies introduce special fog hardware

2. Microsoft decides it is a good idea and introduces a standard in the API

3. The hardware simple responds to that API call/command (like a function call)

4. Bam, you now support the fog function

As long as you satisfy all the functions, you are golden. Very little... innovation.

Now take a second and read what CUDA has done and I think you will have a better appreciation of Nvidia. I have had MANY first hand experiances. One of my classmates was a intern for the State of California Water managment and he accellerated the ground water model from takeing hours to seconds. Here are some published CUDA infrom from the Nvidia site.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/cuda_home.html#

Again, I by no means hate ATI or AMD. I simply think they are not doing anything spectacular.