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bug in tec scout vs advent homing mine

March 20, 2009 3:21:58 AM from Sins of a Solar Empire ForumsSins of a Solar Empire Forums

i know the specs were tweeked on this update.  but the threshold is too close.  the tec scout slows to a stop inside the detection range.  thus the scout sees the mine, but then gets killed soon after when the mine turns on the scout that should be out of range.

the only way to clean the advent mine field is to spam scouts into the mines losing the scouts in the process.

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Reply #1 March 20, 2009 4:25:33 AM
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Not sure if it has been fixed in this version, but in V1.01 the mine detection ability wouldn't work in a magnetic cloud as all abilities don't work in there. So you cannot uncloak the mines without suicide runs to trigger them....

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Reply #2 March 20, 2009 7:32:53 PM
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doesnt mine detonation count as an ability though?

 

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Reply #3 March 20, 2009 11:22:52 PM
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Yes. And TEC cannot deploy outside a grav well they own. And vassari have an ability on their cruiser. But advent can drop mines in a magnetic cloud and suicide runs are the only way to clear them....

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Reply #4 March 21, 2009 1:09:30 AM
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fyi this has nothing to do with mag clouds.  they changed the ranges of the mine detection and the range of the tec scouts in the update.  its in the change log.  but the theshold is too small between them and suicide is the old option unless there are a crap load of scouts and other ships to kill the mines before the home in.  no chance of leaving a couple scouts behind to clean a well as the fleet moves on.

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Reply #5 March 21, 2009 1:23:25 AM
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I KNOW they changed the range. Just pointing out ANOTHER issue that requires scout spam to clear a mine field....

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Reply #6 March 23, 2009 11:04:25 AM
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ya good point.  hopefull IC will address these in the future.

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Reply #7 March 23, 2009 11:19:43 AM
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Quoting ,
quoting post

i know the specs were tweeked on this update.  but the threshold is too close.  the tec scout slows to a stop inside the detection range.  thus the scout sees the mine, but then gets killed soon after when the mine turns on the scout that should be out of range.

the only way to clean the advent mine field is to spam scouts into the mines losing the scouts in the process.

Mine detection is dangerous, your going to lose some scouts. If you never lost ships, whats the point?

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Reply #8 March 24, 2009 12:56:44 PM
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whats the point of detecting mines at all in this case then?  oh look, a grav well with 150 mines in it.   oh boy i cant wait to clean this field, it should only 50,000 credits and take a few hours since the the detection isnt working.  mix that with hack78's point, and its even worse.

or from the other side...

im advent, i do nothing but spam mines line crazy against the TEC because i KNOW they cannot safely clear the field.

its out of balanced.

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