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Microsoft Security Essentials failed AV-Test Certification

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Microsoft Security Essentials failed AV-Test Certification

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Bad news if you’re relying MSE to protect you against malware, A-V Test reports.

MSE dropped to 10.5 out of a possible 18. Other software dropped 1-2 points as well.

AVG Anti-Virus Free Edition and VIPRE Internet Security were among 16 of the 23 products tested which dropped in their scores.

You can get the full report here: http://www.av-test.org/en/tests/home-user/windows-7/sepoct-2012/

BitDefender, F-Secure Internet Security and Kaspersky Internet Security scored the highest, which has been a trend. Norton scored 15, down slightly from its prior 15.5.

The business products scored similar values.

So, if you’re in the market for a security product, keep the above in mind. Also, I always suggest two additional steps: Be careful about where you browse and use a Guest Account for your browsing. That way, your Administrator privileges are not accessible by any malware you encounter and deny any installation of software to that  Guest Account.. Virtual browsing is a good measure, too. Also… make a disc image every week.

Source:

http://securitywatch.pcmag.com/none/305401-microsoft-fails-av-test-certification

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Reply #51 from Sins Forums Top

MSE + common sense works out for me..

Reply #52 from Elemental Forums Top

Quoting LightStar, reply 2
Never had any problem whatsoever with MSE here. Funny how all the top rated ones have to be paid for.

 
End of LightStar's quote

 

I bet the malware coming and going did not have any problem with your MSE installation either ;-) False sense of security, that's all Windows users need to sleep well.

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Reply #53 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Well I finally got around to installing Comodo Internet Security last night and I must say that on the whole I'm quite pleased with it.  Apart from being a breeze to install, it seems to use few system resources, even when scanning.  It did find a couple of false positives and sandbox them during the initial scan, Winstep Workshelf and Fastone Image Viewer, but upon completion this had been corrected and the apps were released to full usage again. 

Yup, I like having my security tools [AV/Firewall, etc] all in one toolbox, and Comodo has done a better job of it than Norton IMHO, so I'm feeling happier and safer with it onboard.  Also, it is more configurable than I remember Norton being, so I feel more in control as well... as in I can choose from "Safe" to "Proactive" modes if I want to.

Reply #54 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Wonder if I should switch. Running AVG myself. Is Comodo lighter on resources?

Reply #55 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Quoting starkers, reply 53
Well I finally got around to installing Comodo Internet Security last night and I must say that on the whole I'm quite pleased with it.  Apart from being a breeze to install, it seems to use few system resources, even when scanning.  It did find a couple of false positives and sandbox them during the initial scan, Winstep Workshelf and Fastone Image Viewer, but upon completion this had been corrected and the apps were released to full usage again. 

Yup, I like having my security tools [AV/Firewall, etc] all in one toolbox, and Comodo has done a better job of it than Norton IMHO, so I'm feeling happier and safer with it onboard.  Also, it is more configurable than I remember Norton being, so I feel more in control as well... as in I can choose from "Safe" to "Proactive" modes if I want to.
End of starkers's quote

Give Comodo Dragon (browser based on Chrome) a shot. Very fast and if you use their portal, super private/anonymous. Add Ad-block and whichever other extensions you like...

Reply #56 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Quoting DrJBHL, reply 55
Give Comodo Dragon (browser based on Chrome) a shot. Very fast and if you use their portal, super private/anonymous. Add Ad-block and whichever other extensions you like...
End of DrJBHL's quote

I'm actually using Comodo IceDragon and I find it quite good to use.  It is based on Firefox but it seems more secure and is just as customisable. I suppose I could always install Dragon and compare the two, to see if I'm keeping one or the other or both.  Thing is, I do like their software, so much so that I may ditch Firefox and some other system tools entirely.  I have been using Iobit's Advanced System Care to clean and optimise, but Comodo have something quite similar that I may switch to if it compares favourably.

Reply #57 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Running NIS 2013 which is free from Comcast..............a sterling performer with a very light footprint 

Reply #58 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Quoting kona0197, reply 54
Wonder if I should switch. Running AVG myself. Is Comodo lighter on resources?
End of kona0197's quote

I've not run AVG so Im not aware of its impact, but Comodo has a fairly small footprint on my machine.  However, given my rig is fairly high end, I couldn't say how Coodo would run on yours.  Thing is, you could try it to see how well your machine runs it.  If that's well, all well and good... if not well you've lost nothing as it is free to use on home PC's.

Reply #59 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Quoting starkers, reply 23

Quoting Jafo, reply 19Did I jump on THEIR website and piss and moan that the bastards scammed me with a useless sub because I had updated MY OS to something new?

No.

What samatter wiv you, then?  I mean, faark, it's frickin' obligatory to piss, moan and bitch when ya bin ripped off, init!

It's like there's no lead in yer pencil, um, no resin in yer glue.

No wonder the bastards keep doing it, sticking it to the little bloke, nobody f***ing complains anymore.

Ya know, I wrote to Arnotts the other day... to complain about the biscuits... how the one on each end is always broken.

I got a letter back!  Yeah, it surprised the f**k out of me as well, but there it was... a letter.

It said: "Thank you for your enquiry and be pleased to know that, for your convenience, we shall leave those out in the future."
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:rofl:  hahaha

well we tested the windows defender a bit last week, on 2 identical computers same hardware setup same software, we downloaded a random keygen from the web that we tested via virus total in advanve. (i recommend not to try this kind of stuff at your home PC unless you know what you are doing since it might end badly for your pc health)
The keygen was listed by 8 programs on virus total as Keygen- every other program listed was silent about the content and marked the file as good.
keep in mind that the file was still compressed.
Ok now before we grabbed the keygen we updated Wdefender and rebooted.
We then downloaded the file simultaneous... 

here is the point where strange stuff happend..
as soon as my little keygen was downloaded windows defender popped up and warned me about the keygen...
(the keygen was still compressed)
on the second computer nothing happend... no pop up window nothing -
My buddy began to laugh and looked a bit confused at the same time we checked defender settings to be sure nothing else was different on his defender setup.
then we unpacked the keygen on to his desktop ( note after unpacking defender remained silent )and made a defined search with defender.
defender said that everything in that folder is ok and no threat at all...
we repeated that test... nothing happend
back to my computer i unpacked it and defender started to warn me again.

We could figure out why it does warn one User but not the second, we contacted MS about this, they took note but there was no feedback about it.
That is why i went and got a shield that does the job 





 

Reply #60 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Quoting Roloccolor, reply 59
(the keygen was still compressed)
End of Roloccolor's quote

It's possible the keygen was actually clean....but the compression algorythm used kicked the warning into action...;)

Reply #62 from Elemental Forums Top

Quoting Wizard1956, reply 21

Quoting alaknebs, reply 17point still stands.. don't see comodo.

No, your point fell by the wayside in reply #9. Comodo is there with the others. It isn't current, as you have pointed out, but it is there. 

@ Jafo: Spoilsport.  
End of Wizard1956's quote

if it's not current then it's pointless. nothing worse than outdated protection.

 

it's not that i have anything for or against comodo. i use it, but i have no clue how good it is. and sometimes you wonder if they have anything to hide by not participating in those tests...or don't want to pay to do those test or whatever it is that means they don't participate in them.

 

that was the point.

Reply #63 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Quoting alaknebs, reply 62
if they have anything to hide by not participating in those tests
End of alaknebs's quote

 

keep in mind that this "AV-Test Certification" is not some kind of gold standard of anti-virus protection quality. in the end "AV-Test" is just some guys in Germany that try to sell their services.

if one of their test has some "shocking" results, good for them. because in our time digital media has to provide content no matter what.

 

Reply #64 from WinCustomize Forums Top

Quoting Jafo, reply 60

Quoting Roloccolor, reply 59(the keygen was still compressed)

It's possible the keygen was actually clean....but the compression algorithm used kicked the warning into action...
End of Jafo's quote

well it alarmed my defender even after extraction...so it cant be the compression method used also the compression of the file did not change.
but why would defender detect it and then does not on a second computer compressed or uncompressed... that was the main problem, defender clearly noticed it on the one machine. I hope i will recieve any feedback from MS to that