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New Hard Drives May Force XP Users to Upgrade to Windows 7

New Hard Drives May Force XP Users to Upgrade to Windows 7

http://www.maximumpc.com/article/news/new_hard_drives_may_force_xp_users_upgrade_7

Your computer won't smack you in the face and force you to upgrade, but poor performance might.  Hit the link.

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Reply #26 Top

I put XP back on my older 320 GB WD hdd today.  I've been having some problems with Win7 and decided to take a break from figuring it out.  I fogot how much I actually like XP.  Not saying it's better than Win7, just that I do like it for some of the things it does.  Specifically, I can use some of my favorite WB's on it that haven't been updated for Win7 yet.  And I wanted to try out the new Plasmatron, which is awesome btw.  Yay for XP.

Reply #27 Top

I put XP back on my older 320 GB WD hdd today. I've been having some problems with Win7 and decided to take a break from figuring it out.
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Bullshit!!  You did it to better relate to Webgizmos.

I fogot how much I actually like XP.
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See!  Next you'll be ranting: "XP is ALL I ever wanted, needed and will ever...blah, blah, blah!!" just like him as well.  I mean, that little piece above was quite tame, but I can see it, if you don't get back to Win 7 as a matter of great urgency, that you and he will be having competitions to see which one of you can write the best XP rant in WC forum history.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Reply #28 Top

Quoting starkers, reply 27

I put XP back on my older 320 GB WD hdd today. I've been having some problems with Win7 and decided to take a break from figuring it out.


Bullshit!!  You did it to better relate to Webgizmos.


I fogot how much I actually like XP.


See!  Next you'll be ranting: "XP is ALL I ever wanted, needed and will ever...blah, blah, blah!!" just like him as well.  I mean, that little piece above was quite tame, but I can see it, if you don't get back to Win 7 as a matter of great urgency, that you and he will be having competitions to see which one of you can write the best XP rant in WC forum history.


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No.  I like Win7 much better.  Which is why I put this on a wholly separate HD.  I don't even want XP residing on the same HD as my Win7 one.  I don't like the idea of it.  Sitting there.  Pretending to be on it's own partition.  Leaking into the other one behind my back.  Nope. Do. Not. Want.

For now, XP is being used.  But I'll tire of it's dependability soon I'm sure and I'll put the Win7 one back in...maybe. :-"

Reply #30 Top

its the energizer bunny of OS's...it just keeps going and going and...

 

:P

7 aint bad except for all the white unskinnable areas.Still,for all the 7 users that seem to think EVERYONE should use what they use...(same thing happened when Vista came out)...I still havnt heard a single reason why someone on an older machine NEEDS to upgrade.

I currently run all 3,all tweaked,all skinned and running the same exact programs.XP uses less ram,fewer processes and less hard drive space.

So someone please tell me...whats the reason I NEED to actually prefer 7 to XP?

The superbar?Its OK,kinda weird...too tall tho...that used to be a crime here. :-" (very limiting on designs also...pinned apps look silly with the button stacking and the mouseover glow only works on translucent buttons)

 

(thanks for the Plasplug natas,I knew somebody had to like the damn thing) ;)

Reply #31 Top

No. I like Win7 much better. Which is why I put this on a wholly separate HD. I don't even want XP residing on the same HD as my Win7 one.
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On the same HDD or PC?  Not in my house!  In fact, I have some XP discs that I keep in a separate room at the other end of the house.... giving myself the best chance to avoid cross-contamination.

I don't like the idea of it. Sitting there. Pretending to be on it's own partition. Leaking into the other one behind my back.
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See!!! You're worried about it as well  Hehe, if I were you, then, I'd take that XP drive and install it in another PC someplace else... like at a relative's.  Does'nt have to be one you don't like so much, but you feel less guilty for foisting XP on them if they're your least favourite rellies.... believe me.

I have nightmares and often awaken in a cold sweat because I built my daughter a rig and put XP on it for her.  Yup, the shame of my deed is getting to me. As punishment, I'm being tortured every night by bad dreams, cold sweats and having to get up at least 4 times to pee.

There again (the risk of guilt/shame is too great with a relly/friend) give it to an unpopular neighbour who's moving out of town... that one should be guilt free.

Oh yeah, get back to Win 7 real soon!! Don't be messing in XP for too long... as Webgizmos will tell ya, the meds for that just aren't strong enough.

:-" ;P :rofl:

Reply #32 Top

Reply 22-Um, there is one good reason to upgrade sooner... rather than later. In our latter years (and I'm assuming with a 35 y/o son that you're in yours) our minds aren't as sharp as they once were... the longer you leave it the steeper the learning curve.

Heh, speak fer yerself! ;)

Reply 24-Interesting, my Father who was a casualty of said war would never have called a discussion by people of free will's, drivel. Infact he would have been proud to have fought for thier right to do so in a civil manner.

Hummmm--if he's a casualty, how do you know what he thinks, I know very few who talk to the dead. But in any event, he would be entitled to his opinion as I am mine.

Man! This is more fun than arguing with my old lady! :)

Reply #33 Top

So someone please tell me...whats the reason I NEED to actually prefer 7 to XP?
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I don't see any NEED to upgrade.  If it's working for you, then it's working for you.  I like XP and Win7 for different reasons.  Vista...meh, it's not on a HDD right now but who know's.  Maybe I'll install it on one in the future...mostly because I have it and I can.

Reply #34 Top

XD @ Starkers!

Starkers + Currried Cabbage = Club Al Insanity (It's the pressure build up that causes him to forget how good XP really is...plus he has to justify all those upgrades just to be able to use that huge taskbar and all those bells and whistles...oh...and not to mention having to ask permission when you click on something) So when he goes on about how 7 is so much better...just smile and nod...he's just trying to convince himself switching was a good thing. XD :-" :rofl:

Reply #35 Top

Reply 22- "Um, there is one good reason to upgrade sooner... rather than later. In our latter years (and I'm assuming with a 35 y/o son that you're in yours) our minds aren't as sharp as they once were... the longer you leave it the steeper the learning curve."

Heh, speak fer yerself!
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I was!  It's just that I'm not alone and quite a few of us here can be tarred with the same 'latter years' brush.  It's not that we can't learn all this new fangled technolergy... it just takes us a lot longer than it did with the trusty abacus.  And given I was never very mathematical, I never mastered that, either.  In fact, I found it so confusing I found another use for the beads... wonder if my g/f at the time ever figured out where her necklace came from.

:-" ;P

Vista...meh, it's not on a HDD right now but who know's. Maybe I'll install it on one in the future...mostly because I have it and I can.
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Hmmm!  Just because you can... doesn't mean you should!  In fact, I advise against it (adding Vista to a rig that's already got XP and Win 7), cos triple booting will give you nightmares, cold sweats and make you get up to pee at least 4 times a night.  Not only that, at boot you'd see 3 entries and would be going "eeny meeny miny mo" instead of getting on with it... which is not very productive, right? 

:-" ;P

:rofl: @ Webgizmos!!!

There ya go again... trying to attribute a logical decision to curried cabbage and calling it a mistake.  I'll have you know that it was a clear and deliberate choice to upgrade to Win 7... the Microsoft ads said it was good, and I believed 'em.

Oh, and I don't use the phat taskbar in Win 7.  It reminds me that I have a weight problem... and I want to enjoy my coffee and donuts while I'm computing, thank you.

.oh...and not to mention having to ask permission when you click on something
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And I'll thank you not to rubbish the 'old fart' safety mechanism. It has saved my bacon many a time when I forgot untick the Google Chrome installation that comes with the DivX player install these days.  Sheesh... like I don't want that rubbish on my PC.

And I'll also thank you not to put thoughts in peoples heads... words in their mouths.  Your entire post was a psychosis driven attempt to influence others... and knowing you (being the lunatic that you are) it won't be "just smile and nod" for long.  No, that'll develop into a "point and stare" thing and I'll be afraid to go out where XP users congregate.

:-" :w00t: ;P :P

 

Reply #36 Top

cos triple booting will give you nightmares
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Who said anything about triple booting.  I don't even like double booting.  I just swap out the hdd lickity split.  Just as fast as a reboot for me.

Reply #37 Top

cos triple booting will give you nightmares
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wusss :P

 

I'm mentus incompus and I triple boot...with custom entries in the OS choice screen,6 partitions,and all document folders pointing to a single,seperate drive. :dur:

Reply #38 Top

Quoting starkers, reply 35
I was!  It's just that I'm not alone and quite a few of us here can be tarred with the same 'latter years' brush.  It's not that we can't learn all this new fangled technolergy... it just takes us a lot longer than it did with the trusty abacus.  And given I was never very mathematical, I never mastered that, either.  In fact, I found it so confusing I found another use for the beads... wonder if my g/f at the time ever figured out where her necklace came from.
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No offense. Yes I can remember building a "flip/flop" circuit on a breadboard way back in '67. A few years later in the army at Augusta, Georgia, training on one of the first military machines by IBM with peripherals as big as a car, tape readers, card readers, and the main machine that could handle a whole 800k of data and transmit it in 30 seconds over the new satellite link. High tech for 1973. I am getting old. Back's destroyed, joints are arthritic, can barely walk--where does the time go? But my memory's about as good as it ever was, it's all I got left ;)

Reply #39 Top

cos triple booting will give you nightmares

Who said anything about triple booting. I don't even like double booting. I just swap out the hdd lickity split. Just as fast as a reboot for me.
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Hehe, I hope you're not taking my tongue-in-cheek stuff too seriously.  I went through a bout of depression recently, and I'm just using a bit of lunacy to help me get back on track. ;P :P :d

With things like this (preferred OS/dual or triple booting, etc) it's always a case of each to his/her own.  Me, I liked to dual boot... that way I could always get in if one OS is down (which is very, very rare these days).  No, it's more that I can designate each OS to be and do certain things.  For instance: I have Vista Home Premium x64 set up as my office and doc/art creation OS, and Win 7 Home Premium x64 as my media and AV creation/editing OS.  I just find that neither OS gets too bloated that way... and usually it's only 45 to 50 seconds to switch between the two.

Some might ask why I'd want to run Vista now that I've got Win 7, but to be honest, I never disliked Vista, and now that I've decrappified it/disable all non-essential services, etc, it's not too shabby at all.  Put it this way, I detect very little difference in speed between between the two Oses on my machine, so it's not the disadvantage or a resource hog some people feel it to be.

Oh yeah, if truth be known, I do not dislike XP, either.  Admittedly I never liked the default look (thank goodness for customisation), but as an OS it was pretty OK by the time SP2 had arrived.  In fact, I still have XP Pro on my secondary rig and the one we reserve for visitors/guests... so it's not like I've totally abandoned it.  It's just that I prefer Vista/Win 7 for every day use, that's all.

See!!! I can be serious as well. ;)

Reply #40 Top

cos triple booting will give you nightmares

wusss



I'm mentus incompus and I triple boot...with custom entries in the OS choice screen,6 partitions,and all document folders pointing to a single,seperate driv
e.

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Yeah, but like Webgizmos, you have an excuse for being mentus incompus (or put another way.. non-compus mentis). Yup, you were so besotted by XP, that when Vista came out it was such a shock to your sensibilities that you went into cerebral meltdown and had a brain infart.  Quite a few have commented that you've never been the same since... that if it wasn't for the meds you'd be certifiable and in a strait jacket... such is your abhorrence for Vista.

So if you can triple boot without nightmares, cold sweats and having to get up 4 times a night to pee, it's the meds... which by the way, you should oughta share with WG. 

As you can tell, his aren't that strong. ;P :P :-"

 

No offense. Yes I can remember building a "flip/flop" circuit on a breadboard way back in '67. A few years later in the army at Augusta, Georgia, training on one of the first military machines by IBM with peripherals as big as a car, tape readers, card readers, and the main machine that could handle a whole 800k of data and transmit it in 30 seconds over the new satellite link. High tech for 1973. I am getting old. Back's destroyed, joints are arthritic, can barely walk--where does the time go? But my memory's about as good as it ever was, it's all I got left
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Sounds like we're in similar boats.  I have spinal issues in both my neck and lower back... both hips and knees are arthritic, so are my shoulders, elbows, wrists and knuckles.  I also have great difficulty with mobility 99% of the time.  Apparently, I may have a form of arthritis known as fibromyalgia that also impacts on other areas such as concentration, swallowing, sleep, etc. Just waiting on some test results to see if that's the case, but seeing as I have quite a few of the symptoms, it seems likely.

I have some good days when I can get out to the shops or do a bit in the yard, but for the most part I'm not so mobile these daysl.  I still have my memory as well... not so good with names and phone no's always, but I generally remember all the important stuff, way back to when I was a young kid, even.

We have one difference. though.  I never touched a computer until 2001 - 2002, and then it was only little forays here and there.  I didn't start getting serious until late 2004 - early 2005.... and I haven't looked back since.

Reply #42 Top

Hummmm--if he's a casualty, how do you know what he thinks, I know very few who talk to the dead. But in any event, he would be entitled to his opinion as I am mine.
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 I got to talk to him for a few years before the chem's he was exposed to during his tour slowly destroyed him from the inside out. Not all casualties died there on the foriegn soils. He had 2 things in his life he told me were his proudest achivements. Me being one, and knowing that he had the chance to give his life to protect our freedom. And yes I know how he would have thought as he was big on the freedom to disagree without persecution. Our freedom to disagree, yours to tell us how you fought to protect our freedom to drivel..as well as your Freedom to call a conversation drivel, as well as dismissing others who disagree with your opinions as drivel. ;)

 

Oh BTW you might also realize that being born after his tour I too most likely have the same lovely stuff floating around inside, and might invariably end up with the same fate. The VA confirmed he passed of over exposure.. I refuse to be tested as I'd rather not know...

Reply #43 Top

I got to talk to him for a few years before the chem's he was exposed to during his tour slowly destroyed him from the inside out. Not all casualties died there on the foriegn soils.
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Mate of mine [GrandPrix Official] died a few years ago from 'injuries in 'Nam'.... second tour...SAS...Helping show the Americans how it's done...and one of the grunts stood on a mine....he got half his face blown away [the grunt was less lucky - came home in a box]....died 30 years later from septicemia...old wound re-opened.

SAS...+ behind the lines = Dead by Agent Orange

Reply #44 Top

I't is a tragedy what they went thru and what some are still. All who served are heroes. Those who gave thier all, hold a dear place in my heart.. :'(

Reply #45 Top

Hehe, I hope you're not taking my tongue-in-cheek stuff too seriously.
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I'm not. :grin:

Reply #46 Top

Hehe, I hope you're not taking my tongue-in-cheek stuff too seriously.

I'm not.
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Phew, that's a relief!  Dunno how I'd have lived with myself if I had influenced you as much as Webgizmos influenced me.

Yup, his rants have had a profound effect on me... so much so that when I'm doing kisses for a dollar at the local church's charity booth, I often feel compelled to give the lassies 97c change.  It's a sad state of affairs, Ill tell ya!  I can't take the medication Webgizmos prefers (ssshhh...wacky tobaccy... don't tell anyone) so when the vicar see's I'm getting a little agitated he puts me in a strait jacket so's I can't dip into the cashbox and give refunds.  And believe me, that has other disadvantages!  Like when some ol' grandma type comes up fer a kiss and plants a right slobbery one right on the lips... bloody strait jacket means I can't wipe it off.

o_O :S   :-" ;P

Reply #48 Top

when I'm doing kisses fior a dollar at the local church's charity booth
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:puke:  

Reply #50 Top

I don't understand what can be better in Win7 when it needs so much RAM to run and it's hardly customizable at all.

My XP runs like a racing car, stripped from any unnecessary services, it only uses about 300mb RAM on startup (180mb virtual memory).

I've never even updated it, all the false security fixes are unnecessary (just need a good security suite and to avoid using IE)

The best tip I can give for a super-fast performance is to use a tool called XP antispy, it's not a security app, it lets you strip the OS from anything unnecessary (there is a lot you don't need to run in the background) and it has a cool UI with recommended profile and explainations about each service -

http://www.xp-antispy.org/index.php/en

I also use Tuneup utilities to customize the startup entries and get rip of many apps that run in the background each time the OS starts

Once you will customize XP, there's no OS that can even come close in terms of performance!