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CHKDSK DRIVING ME MAD ....

please help me, pretty pretty please.. *sniff**sniff*

October 6, 2009 10:24:00 PM from WinCustomize ForumsWinCustomize Forums

Just another quickie hopefully ... ( sitting Comfortably ?)

By that , I mean I hope this is resolved pretty sharpish ...

Chapter 1 ... !

Yesterday ,I bought a brand new External Maxtor 500 gb hd for my mate ( birthday treat) ...

Read all instructions .. installed the usb and the transformer supplied ... no probs ... and plugged in and turned on ..

No problems ... found new hardware popup .. installed drivers ...

Rebooted and the new disc showed up in the my Computer page ... all A - OK  ...

Formatted the disc no probs ....  Checked with Defender , AVG .. Iobit360 Clean as a whistle ...

Copied a few bits and pieces over from his docs and pics to make sure everything is fine ...

 It was ....

After this I left him to go home ...

This morning ..I get a call to pop round and I see his PC is running a CHKDSK routine , on his new HD,

and found out it had been doing it for a couple of hours ...

and he still had not seen his logon screen ...

  I then held in the main start button on the pc  ~ it turned itself off , I waited a couple of minutes ~

and then I hit the On button again ...

Once I did that after a few secs the CHKDSK started to run again on the new HD ..

I pressed "any key" ~ and LO and behold Vista started ...

Chapter 2 ....

So ~ ~

Once again I ran the Defender, Avg etc ... clean as a whistle .. again ... Rebooted ,

~ and the damn CHKDSK started running again by this time I was totally flummoxed ,

as was the birthday boy !

So I tried to find out using the help and support section how to TURN OFF the CHKDSK

function for that drive

and had no luck .....

Chapter 3 ... !

Which leads me to the question ....

HOW DO I TURN THE DARN THING OFF SO IT NEVER DOES IT AGAIN .... ? ?

<><><>

Dual-booting Vista Home Premium ~ all Service packs and up to date (new PC)  and Windows 7 RC build7100

Intel CoreDuo E4700 at 2,60 Ghz , Nvidia Geforce 9300 GE ... 

( Sorry its was long winded Guys and gals , I thought I had better try to explain things as they happened .... )

Mike

(ps sorry for the large font .. I put my spex down somewhere and cant find them ...)

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Reply #1 October 6, 2009 10:36:08 PM
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Hi Mike, hold on a sec, I went looking for help for you. 

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Reply #2 October 6, 2009 10:40:39 PM
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Reply #3 October 6, 2009 10:48:10 PM
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Thanks Philly !  

( hehe .. See if you can find my spex   )

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Reply #4 October 6, 2009 10:55:35 PM
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Did you use a disk defragger to defrag the disc? Thus it failed to run on reboot - like diskeeper maybe?

Even so it or something has set a dirty bit on the drive no matter what you do to it - that is change drive letter or even remove and then place it back. The system see it has adirty bit set for it.

Thus you need to clear that up - so - go to run and type cmd press enter then at the dos command screen type CHKDSK /F C:  

 C: being whatever the drive letter is set for - you will need to set that correctly. Close the screen and reboot the system. It should work out ok after that.

Oh by the way CHKDSK will not or should not be run on an external drive. This is not always true depending on the system. But in most cases it will happen and CHKDSK will stay there till you shut the machine down and restart the system and then press the bypass key.

Let me know?

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Reply #5 October 6, 2009 11:00:59 PM
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 Oh I've been there and done that Mike, be very careful where and when you sit down or step even. 

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Reply #6 October 6, 2009 11:02:02 PM
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Ooops, did it again  

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Reply #7 October 6, 2009 11:07:36 PM
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Boot into bios and set correct boot sequence.

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Reply #8 October 6, 2009 11:35:26 PM
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yrag Thanks for Popping in :

 Just tried that one .. did a restart ~  No change ....

 ( forgot to mention the PC has Vista and W7 on C: and D : W7 starts up ok .. Its only the Vista Side with the prob

.. the Maxtor is on usb J:  ...Sorry ... )

Now trying a switch off and wait a minute or so , then a switch on .. back in a bit ...

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Reply #9 October 6, 2009 11:43:37 PM
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Sorry to keep you waiting ...

No Change with a Switch off and on ...

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Reply #10 October 6, 2009 11:48:45 PM
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What file system did you format the external to? Does it boot correctly when the J drive is disconnected?

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Reply #11 October 6, 2009 11:49:36 PM
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Ok go to the all programs list and accessories choose the command prompt from there but right click it and run as administrator.

Then type chkntfs /x J:   press enter

then type fsutil dirty query J:   press enter

if it says the dirty bit is not set for that drive you should be good to go

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Reply #12 October 6, 2009 11:50:29 PM
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Running so many security apps could be messing with your drive too.  Usually recommended to only have one antivirus and one antispyware app installed (which often are the same app) (though that doesn't mean you need to disable Defender, its pretty harmless.)

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Reply #13 October 6, 2009 11:53:05 PM
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Yrag ...NTFS , and yes it boots correctly when J  (the Maxtor ) is disconnected ...

Shelby ...  Doing now....

and it says Volume J is dirty ...

 

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Reply #14 October 7, 2009 12:01:05 AM
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Format FAT32 (Quick) in the Disk Management Console (either Vista or Win7). Boot into bios: USB Legacy Support: Enabled.

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Reply #15 October 7, 2009 12:04:03 AM
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go to the drive in computer and right click it and select properties - then go to tools - then in the error checking box there select check now besure automatically fix is checked for the box there and go start let that run then run the command prompt again with the fsutil dirty query J: - thus what does it say? if it is clear you should be good to go. If not there maybe another problem with a update for Vista. But we will see about that after I know for sure.

Be sure you do this in the Vista OS

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Reply #16 October 7, 2009 12:13:56 AM
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yrag .. where do I find the Disk Management Console ,

~ and If I do Format Fat32quick will I lose what is on the Maxtor ?

Shelby ..doing ..

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Reply #17 October 7, 2009 12:19:35 AM
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yes all data on the drive will be removed if you reformat...

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Reply #18 October 7, 2009 12:22:04 AM
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Try Shelbygt's first while you have NTFS format:

Correct commands:

CMD: CHKNTFS /J D:
Reboot 
CMD: Chkdsk /f /r d:
On completion: CMD: fsutil dirty query d:   

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Reply #19 October 7, 2009 12:33:10 AM
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CMD: CHKNTFS /J D:
Reboot
CMD: Chkdsk /f /r d:
On completion: CMD: fsutil dirty query d:

????

maybe?

 

CMD: CHKNTFS /D J:
Reboot
CMD: Chkdsk /f /r J:
On completion: CMD: fsutil dirty query J:

 

Plus another way is to use safe mode and I think you can run safe mode with a command prompt...

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Reply #20 October 7, 2009 12:38:56 AM
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SUCCESS !!!

I got as far as "CMD: CHKNTFS /J D: Reboot "

Turned off completely , Turned back on , and Vista came in as it should ... 

and just to make sure Turned off and then back on again ... and Vista came up ...

Thank you ever so much guys ...... I truly appreciate it ... 

Now I can get to bed .... I wasnt looking forward to a night of tossing and turning trying to sort this one out ....

Yrag , Shelby ..YO DE MEN , for sure ...

Thanks .. Lots of them ..   Kindest Regards ...  and goodnight !

Mike

( When all is said and done , I wonder what caused it ... ? )

~ later ... !

 

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Reply #21 October 7, 2009 12:45:18 AM
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OK another thing if you use the command

Chkdsk /f /r J: on that new drive and it says it is repair a bad sector or marking a bad sector. Then something is wrong with that new drive. You should contact the manufacture with that information and get another drive under warranty. Not sure but you will have to pay shipping on it. But then again you can try to take back to where you bought the drive at. They should give you another one.

Besure to get your files off the drive by coping them to another drive for backup. I got a feeling some of the files may not copy?

But give it a try. Plus you can try this also if all else fails to work with what we are trying to do already here. Go ahead and backup the files on the drive to another drive. Then as yrag has said reformat it to fat32. Restart the computer and see if there is no problems with the restart and then do another format back to ntfs and do not use quick format - also name the volume to something.

If this fails and you continue to have problems as this with that drive it is faulty and needs to be returned for warranty.

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Reply #22 October 7, 2009 12:49:22 AM
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You may only be getting the command we did earlier to skip the chkdsk at startup or boot. Thus the dirty bit is still set on the drive - you need to check things completely again tomorrow.

Do contact me at my email listed in my profile.

Tomorrow!

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Reply #23 October 7, 2009 9:58:51 PM
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Just an update for y'all  ~

so far everything is running as it should ... and everything is cool !! Yayyyy !

Fanx to yrag and Shelby .. and Philly for getting hold of people ... !!

Regards

Mike 

PS Philly .. I found me spex ... Left 'em in the car !! hahahahaha .....

 

Shelby You have a PM !

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Reply #24 October 7, 2009 10:12:55 PM
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Glad to hear everything is working as it should, well all except keeping track of your glasses.

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