[Suggestion] Guardians and Subjugators

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It is commonly agreed that Guardians are very powerful and Subjugators are pretty useless.

I'd like to suggest swapping abilities between them - exchange Repulsion and Perseverance.

This way the rather overpowered Repulsion would move up to T7 to a ship that is easier to destroy. That alone would balance the ability nicely.

Perseverance would move down to T5 and give Advent a more reasonable way to combat Nano Disassembler and Phase Missiles. A heal ability fits the Guardian better than Subjugator imo. Subjugator should be about.. well subjugating enemy ships, disabling the crew and pushing them around where you want them, not repairing your own.

Not that I mind abusing Guardians and repulsing the heck out of fleets 4 times bigger while I casually bomb their HW. :)

Woof.

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Reply #1 from Sins Forums Top

I doubt very much that this will happen, but it does make sense making repulsion higher tier and perseverance lower tier. The switch also makes a sort of thematic sense, but this change is very unlikely imo.

However, from what I've heard and seen, the Dominas abilities are fine, but they are chanelled which makes them a pain to micro and also the targeting AI is terrible. 

Not sure about Guardians. Its a beast, but I'm not sure how it could be balanced. In any case, the Subverter's Distortion Field and hull points need a boost so that it actually has combat value.

This would help the Vasari against Repulsion. Because carriers were overnerfed, it makes repulsion harder to counter. I'm not sure whether anything is exactly wrong with the ability though.

Reply #2 from Sins Forums Top

i don't think that the guardians' abilities need to be balenced.  remember, the soak up damage, which means if an advent player as a large fleet, and it's soaking up 33% of damage done to ships, it's going to get destroyed rather quickly.

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Reply #3 from Sins Forums Top

That might be an interesting way to do it.  Personally, I've long thought the guardian and subjugator should swap positions in the tech tree, putting the guardian at tech level 5 (and repulsion at 7), with the subjugator at tech level 3