yetis are powerful  if u use them right  they are ment to be sednas  guardians  not warriors   as in if a melee demi charges at sedna yetis can attack it

and yetis  i believe have the most health and armor out the summons

Sedna can already silence and interrupt with pounce, the last thing we need is another inerrupt/stun skill for her minions IMO.

give the yetis  more hp and more armor  so  that they are little tanks  not that they can't be kill but that they are enough to stay alive for a few good wacks on the enermy

Archon, you're wrong. 1 spirit > 1 Yeti. Spirits got no pathfinding issues, spirits cost no mana, and spirits give huge weapon damage buff, AND, because they fly, you can't even use AoE on them. It's fucking impossible to kill a bunch of Spirits. I think that Spirits need a slight nerf, and they're a good example of how strong minions should be.

In order for Yetis to be competitive, each one would have to be about as strong as a Giant. The truth is that their health isn't bad, but their pathfinding and incredibly poor DPS is what lets them down. I say, give them splash and high frontloaded damage, and they'll pwn hard.

They should be free, like erebus and oak (in oaks case, nearly free)

I would love to see Yeti's get a  buff so I could play a siege/healer build.  Not only do they cost too much mana but they die far too easy. I'd like to see them have more armor (to at least tackle a tower) and lowered mana cost.

Oak spirit is far better purely because of flying. You can even send them off to scout like a cheap totem of relevation above a hole between lanes. They also travel faster to actually hit a demigod escaping, no other minion in the game can do that.

When attacking a tower, the tower's AoE damage can not effect both the spirit and the ground troop. That means your spirit can be a total tank for oak when taking tower down. Of course you will need to invest on some minion hp/armor for them to last long enough.

Unlike oak, sedna can not stand next to her yeti while whacking on tower.

Another shitty issue is that when 1 yeti is dead, and you want to re-summon for full power; you have to re-summon them all. That means the yeti have to AGAIN go through that horrible collision detection and reach target enemy. With shambler, you at least don't need to do that; however shambler are made of pure garbage, and QoT use them like one too except she can't afford them without investment.

Then there are those countless disadvantage of yeti others have mentioned.

8 yeti and 8 shambler? I am up for that.

Whether it's appropriate to compare Yetis to other summons or not isn't the issue. The issue is that other Generals get a decent amount of use from their summons, whereas almost everyone ignores Sedna's summons completely. Every skill within a DG's arsenal should be viable or it needs to be reworked. Skills are there for a reason. If the skill is so horrible that it's avoided like the plague then it needs to be looked at to make it viable again. Otherwise, why even have it as an option?

It's there because the devs meant for people to want to pick it. Now you have users telling the devs, "Thanks, but no thanks." So at some point a dev will have to say, "Well shoot, that's my idea, but it's not implemented properly I guess. What can we do about it?"

Yes, they could throw snowballs or some other Yetish attack.

That kind of makes sense, but I don't think QoT minions should be melee. Keep the free or near free summons at melee while making the mana based summons at range.

Something like this:

Erebus - Free Minions from Corpses - Melee

Oak - Raise Dead Ward from Corpses - Melee but Flying to offset mana cost of Ward

QoT - Summon Shambler - Ranged + Mulchable for HP / Damage to enemy to offset even higher mana cost

Sedna - Summon Yeti - Ranged + ??? to offset high mana cost (possibly reduce incoming damage by 5/10/15% with higher levels and add +10 HP regen at final level)?

The problem with Sedna's Yeti's isnt that they are bad. It's that all her other powers are so fucking awesome that most players pass up Yeti's for everything else. The fairly weak AI doesn't help either. And it's just easier to deal direct damage rather than learn to play.

You could easily solve the problem by cutting all Sedna's direct damage by 33%, including Pounce. Sedna would still be very useful but you'd have to choose between easy to use direct damage and harder to learn but substantially better minion damage. That would solve the 'problem' as it exists today. I doubt that would make many players happy though. But I also expect that many players who like Sedna aren't really looking for balance. They just want to make their favorite demigod unbeatable, which Sedna is already very close to being.

What if Yeti's had a +1 healing wind aura per level.  2 of them wouldnt be much, but by level 4 you'd have 4 of them doing +5 each. +20HP/sec isnt bad, and the healing combined with Sedna's would help keep an army alive that much longer.  They can also adjust the aura some if +1 isnt enough, but we dont want it too high.

I lol'd.