Yes, yes, Shady, i agree with you too (i also once said that for some items the cost reduction would be worthless, cause they(items) are worthless - there are always better items to buy/get, even if they are more expensive)

and morpheas  , lol.

If their balance staff is the one from blizzard's, that is taking care of warcraft3 for ex., we would have about a million balance fixes by now. Gosh, it even seems they(blizzards) are making balance changing/fixes when nobody is asking for them. Here in SD/GPG you could plead forever, it is so hard to happen.

I'm sorry SD/GPG, it's just the way it seems.  ...Ups, it is.

don't get too used to, but i agree again with poly

besides the comment about the items being free was an exaggeration do you really think that at sd or gpg its different? your argument is a very lame excuse for doing nothing at all! of course there will be people who dont agree, of course there are people who know shit about the game and try to throw out some ideas but in the end there are just the facts that gpg and sd are too slow but the game needs balance and mods are a way to deliver that in a nice and quick manner. HOW it should be done is another question. i mean do you really think that a community behind open source products always agrees on changes in consensus? fyi: no, that doesnt happen. but the development goes on anyway. so i think we shouldnt discuss about the if but rather about the how and who.

Please be aware that there is someone at GPG that is responsible for balancing AND that frogboy indicated he's made some specific change requests that would logically override the individual typically responsible for balancing.  I'm not sure who requested this change and I really don't understand the reasoning behind improving the horn of battle, other than to say that I suppose I will probably be using this new horn of battle quite often. 

Clarification from frogboy: http://forums.demigodthegame.com/369372

2. Horn of Battle has been changed to provide 50 health per second to minions for 20 seconds.

Guys: Horn of Battle has been NERFED not empowered further.

Before, minions got 2000 HP over 10 seconds.

Now, those minions get half as much HP over twice as much time.

Concerning a community balancing patch:

We had this for SupCom and hardly anybody used it. However, small balancing patches can be of great value to test changes in a controled environment and can be extremely useful if a bunch of very good players test them. That way we could test new ideas (even some crazy stuff) without impacting ranking and breaking the game balance if the ideas don't work out.

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well, now HoB is worse than the original. i think it is now too much nerfed. i don't see anyone would use this again. it was very balanced.

i would have kept the old one but restricting the health effect to a range around the caster. this idea i already mentioned in another thread.

well, one favor item less that will be used.

I forget, is CelMare the same guy who initially thought Bite was overnerfed?

Time will tell, but it seems like HoB will be more useful in some situations since sometimes it'll be more useful for your minions to heal over a longer period of time.

Of course, now LE players won't be able to sit back and laugh as their immortal nightwalkers take down tower after tower while laughing at their splash damage and the AOE of enemy demigods.  If any of you guys need a hug while you're mourning the loss of your exploit, I'm here for y'all.

CelMare pls stop bitching about everything! Jesus Christ!

About HoB: It WAS totally 100% OP. Now it will be nerfed, it will be BALANCED.

Even minions erebus players, who choose HoB as their main favor item, agree to this.

HORN OF BATTLE WAS DEFINITELY OP.

All the player had to do, is choose coven at level 2, make a few minions, activate HoB, and.... tower GONE! Just like that!

Listen to Horse, a  HoB minion erebus player:

And if it was buffed like we thought:

So you see CelMare HoB was OP. Demigods are supposed to kill minions. Not run in fear from some badass minions that can chase them past towers and kill them.

if hob was so overpowered why so few take it? what's the purpose of the item if you cannot use it to tear down towers? if it gets enrfed to not allow ereb doing this anymore then why should i give up 800 hp, or 15% seepd for a minion buff that's not enough? i rarly see one using it in the past except in 1on1.

the ONLY thing that was "oeverpowered" (so to speak) was that ereb could tear down towers while being miles away, thus no possibility to hinder him doing this. and even then there where quite some options left to do so.

but i would agree that in 1on1 the item is somewhat overpowered.

edit: but as i already said, i am not sure if it will be now useless. it' still up to be seen. i just fear it now. we will see how many players will chose it after this change. actually i would think that after they tested it a bit no one would take it in 3vs3 anymore.