thanks Doc,

both of the articles appear to be dated, I see the second with a 2013 date in the link but the code indicates it was originally written in 2008 as well. These are issues that I thought were presented and fixed.

IE8 is still supported. I just had a recent update. Not sure if this has a bearing what so ever but, I believe IE8 is written into the OS (win7) code as opposed to being a separate program.

It's really the OS that is vulnerable with the browser being the gateway into the system. I don't think it really matters that much on the browser but the vulnerability of the OS. I haven't had a problems in that area lately. I would just like my browsing experience to be of my own choosing. What I'm experiencing is that I am in compatibility mode for most of the sites that I visit which causes hic-cups and delays.

I am looking for something better.

http://blogs.which.co.uk/technology/computing-helpdesk/helpdesk-challenge-is-my-pc-part-of-a-botnet/ 
another good reason to care especially if you run outdated software that has a complete x-ray done for so many years and is completely transparent. 
Note: This is from 20/04/2013 and is likely outdated 

according to wikipedia the first recorded botnet was Bagel launched back in 2004. I'm sure there were articles around that time on how to determine if one was infected. So in that sense the article referenced from Which is a rehash of old data, but still useful advice.

Question, chrome users; is the opening page of WC almost devoid of graphics? I'm getting the right side of the page okay but the main section starts out with "latest news" and "recent forum posts", The sections above this are missing.

I'm less worried about being hacked and echo Wiz's comments about what there is to hack into than giving my information away. Here I am using a browser created by a data gathering empire that I enter user names and passwords into. Now that's scary.

there are other things that can happen if your pc gets hacked than just getting your personal information. it can be used to redistribute child porn or other kinds of illegal activity.

if Google scares you, there are alternatives based on the same source code (so the same extensions run as well).

there is Comodo Dragon: http://www.comodo.com/home/browsers-toolbars/browser.php . it's a US company though, so they can be (or already have been) forced to provide a backdoor and/or hand over the user data to the US authorities. just like Lavabit http://lavabit.com/ 

so if you're really concerned about your privacy, the Yandex browser http://browser.yandex.com/ from Russia might be a better choice.

it was a tongue in cheek comment 

Now this made me laugh. Russia, seriously. I don't know but the Eastern Bloc would be the next to last place I'd look for a browser.

I think I'll end up using two browsers, which is what I do now. I use a 64bit IE for daily browsing and a 32bit IE where I need looser settings.

How do you describe that area of the world now a days. Regardless, you knew where I was referring, didn't you.

It has more to do with the amount of cyber crime emanating from those areas and the links from those crimes to the organized Russian criminal element. We know that cyber crime happens everywhere but it seems that the amount of stories regarding this references "that" area and China. It may just be propaganda, I don't know, but it has does have an impact.

From you I expected more.

Pack your bags Alice we're moving. There's this little country on the other side of the planet called smallville. Its ok if you don't mind the occasional swim when the monsoons pass over.