Derek - In .87 will still have the issue that on tactical maps with restrictive terrain (bottleneck) the fast melee troops were in the back, which would cause a loss of turn for them. Any chance for a fix on that?

Anyone else not able to get the update.  Steam doesn't seem to be pushing the 0.9 update yet.

Thanks. I will try to force steam into action.  At least I know it is actually out there now.

So do we have to start a new game to get the most out of this update?

Yep, the city size changes alone were enough to make me restart

Wow thank you Kael.

I didn't know about the hidden Revenge Skill.

They are in the senario folder in the LH directory. The elementaldefs... set some of the difficulty levels.

So far I am loving the scenario.  It's much better than FE's.

I can't understand how Roslin can curse my city without even seeing it, maybe a bug, dunno.

She is an Oracle... she sees everything.

About the scenario:

I've noticed that in the scenario, I can snake cities over to forests and rivers to make logging camps and docks become available for construction. This is not something that I can do in the sandbox game. Is the change in snaking mechanics intentional? If so, why is it available in the scenario but not in the sandbox game?

Personally, I prefer this to be possible, but I think that game mechanics should be consistent, since the LH scenario feels much more like a normal sandbox game than does the FE scenario. Otherwise, it will likely cause spurious bug reports and frequent questions from people who play the scenario to learn the game and then move on to sandbox games.

The easiest way I would like to see here is the ability to build NON OUTPOST buildings with pioneers. I wouldn't mind the ability to build a pioneer and plop this dude on a nearby forest increasing the material yield of a nearby city. They already have radius set up for building outposts too closely the same mechanic can prevent these from being so closely. Similar with piers.

I've done this, I enjoyed playing with it... I just don't like the fact that I have to ignore the upgrade outpost button when doing this. If I could get such a little tag in the building improvements to say this is an outpost type or not, that would be grand. I would like to turn off the outpost upgrade box.

Also, if you would like another extremely complicated rule can go into place is that you can snake to a forest and pier, only if there is no essence in your city. I think I can already set this up right now. Then add another type of camp if it is adjacent to your city and you have essence, thus keeping the mechanic. Not a good idea as this is a rather complicated rule.

IIRC, the FE scenario wasn't in the beta, it was only pushed out (outside their internal testers) until release ... and it had bugs.  My guess is they hope to nip the scenario bugs in the bud before release this time.  That's what beta is supposed to be for, anyway ... yeah a lot of us (paying customers instead of 'real' beta testers) get so caught up that we've turned beta tests into opening-Christmas-presents-months-early can't-wait-for-release early plays, but there really is a point to Beta to make actual release smoother.

I am very irritated with buggy 1.0 releases ... their ubiquity does not excuse their ubiquity, but I also scoff at the derp-users who pre-pay to get access to a beta version, then swear off the game studio or publisher because the beta version has *by gosh* bugs.