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[Suggestion] Apply Penalty to Heroes that Fall in succesful battle

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sweatyboatman
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Reply #26 January 22, 2012 6:37:37 AM
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I agree with getting an injury for falling. Don't really like the idea of a delay in turns. Forced delays can make a game crawl and become boring. Ever played a boardgame with a 'stay put for X rounds' effect? Not cool.
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sweatyboatman
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Reply #27 January 22, 2012 9:30:48 AM
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Quoting Rath3130,
reply 21

Agreed. Player champions should suffer some sort of drawback to being defeated in combat, regardless of the outcome. If it is a victory, then have them unsuable for a time and/or wounded.. And while I think that for a player this is one of the more balanced ways to do it, I think that the AI should be given a bit more leniency when it comes to champions falling in combat. As it has been stated in posts above, the AI can not reload after getting eaten by a big dragon.

 

No. I don't agree with separate rules for the AI.

 

The AI should be taught to avoid the big dragon until it can beat it. Rules should be the same - the AI should just play better. It will probably get "perks" anyway, at least let death be the one equalizer, whether it's saying dead or taking a negative trait and/or other penalties. As far as reloading, that's up to the player. I don't think a game system should be structured around "the player can just reload". The player can also mod .xml files, should the system be around that?

 

Game systems should take into account only what's in-game actions and results, imo. If the player wants to reload every time they lose, so be it, but the base game system shouldn't take reloading into account.

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sweatyboatman
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Reply #28 January 22, 2012 4:52:49 PM
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I think this topic is quite important.

First, giving (serious) injuries to heroes can help balancing the game which -after a few games now- seems to favour heroes.

Secondly, injuries are fun and add a nice touch of customization to heroes. . A nice way to remember your miscalculations in tactical combat.

As a fallen emperor, I will definitely use my 'beyond repair heroes' to cast the paragon spell or something like that (once the UI let' us choose someone else than the sovereig as the caster), and let them be old crones to defend the cities for when their adventurers day are long gone.

This is something Dominions 3 does very right IMHO. Weak heroes or now useless heroes become researcher in a castle. Also, holding some statistics about how many foes heroes have slain would be cool !

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sweatyboatman
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Reply #29 January 22, 2012 4:58:25 PM
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Most traits you get from dying aren't even that bad. It won't break a champion to have a few scars. 

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sweatyboatman
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Reply #30 January 22, 2012 9:59:04 PM
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I had the exact same experience today- my champion died, but since we won there were no negative effects. I don't mind but it seems like I'm cheating.

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sweatyboatman
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Reply #31 January 22, 2012 10:24:12 PM
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Another vote for some consequence for killed heroes in won battles  - wounds or time needed to be spent recovering

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