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GeneralGonzo
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ridiculous - generals vs assassins

December 21, 2009 8:43:56 AM from Demigod ForumsDemigod Forums

The Pantheon mod is ridiculous - against 2 EB or Oaks or mixed you can´t win with nerfed beast and reg or the new assassin. don´t mention Rook....

Generals are too mighty, can solo every assassin and get anarmy fro free with them. It´s no fun to be honest !

 

Mix in their prioest idols and you can´t get them down. Is this the way generals are supposed to be ?

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Reply #1 December 21, 2009 9:07:39 AM
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Hear hear.

Man that game was arse.  Trying to burn through an Oak with 4K+ HP at L10- only to have him shield and then you start it all again just doesn't work.

I think there needs to be a *much* bigger armour difference between Assassin and General.  Assassin AA is piss weak, and all the straight damage is mitigated just by stacking HP.  Not to mention stacking HP is wait why am I bothering?  Everyone and his dog already knows this.

Shoulda taken the refund..... 

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Reply #2 December 21, 2009 9:29:30 AM
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it´s really really really no fun with this pantheon mode and generals being that much OP against Assassins ! It´s a pitty for the game that even the best assassin Unclean beast was patched to death, so you don´t see it on the battlefield anymore.

Can´t stand with him toe-to-toe anymore against Erebus, Oak or even Sedna !

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Reply #3 December 21, 2009 9:30:53 AM
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I dont see much changes in DG pairings in this pantheon to further one's.

You always had this pairs of UB's or doulbe Reguluses, or doulbe erebus, ....

I think Stardock should try to start the next pantheon with only random Demigod option for each side. I think that will be a lot of fun. I hope this random option will avoid double Demigods on each side.

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Reply #4 December 21, 2009 9:35:36 AM
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Quoting GeneralGonzo,
reply 2
it´s really really really no fun with this pantheon mode and generals being that much OP against Assassins ! It´s a pitty for the game that even the best assassin Unclean beast was patched to death, so you don´t see it on the battlefield anymore.

Can´t stand with him toe-to-toe anymore against Erebus, Oak or even Sedna !

There was a patch for Unclean Beast??? Something I missed or just an illusion? What did they nerfed????

My UBeast seems still be strong ( 14 wins/4 losses in this pantheon). A decent Ooze build will help u a bit .

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Reply #5 December 21, 2009 9:39:15 AM
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....did ya take a closer look at spit ?

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Reply #6 December 21, 2009 9:46:24 AM
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Yes, checked now in a single player game and there are no changes at spit. Not at damage, not at mana costs.

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Reply #7 December 21, 2009 9:52:20 AM
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then I´m mistaken, sorry !

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Reply #8 December 22, 2009 2:10:13 AM
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Maybe this is just SD's way of datamining the imbas between Ass and Gen?

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Reply #9 December 22, 2009 2:13:25 AM
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So QoT can solo any assassin past level 7? Wow I did not know this.

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Reply #10 December 22, 2009 7:21:53 AM
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Yeah she can.

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Reply #11 December 22, 2009 9:12:09 AM
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Quoting synnworld,
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So QoT can solo any assassin past level 7? Wow I did not know this.

easy!

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Reply #12 December 22, 2009 10:18:15 AM
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I don't know what you Ass players are whining about, you clearly haven't played vs dual tower rooks, especially on a tiny map like Cat. It's completely impossible if they even have the slightest clue how to play one. All they have to do is health stack, and push with towers and their isn't a damn thing you can do. Complete bullshit.

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Reply #13 December 22, 2009 11:35:58 AM
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queen beats double tower, as does minions erbeus.

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Reply #14 December 22, 2009 2:59:42 PM
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Quoting lifekatana,
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queen beats double tower, as does minions erbeus.

 

Only if double paired with two minion builds is it even a possibility and if your partner is at least half-decent a player, but two tower rooks that warp all over the place to double team + towers is damn near impossible.

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Reply #15 December 22, 2009 3:09:34 PM
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ya clav is right, however goodluck finding two rooks who know what theyre doing in the same game. 

currently IMO spit/ooze UB is unbeatable 1v1 IMO (tear me apart if you wish, but im a decent player. if i play a pro ub, i cant win no matter if i play erubus, oak, or sedna.)

 

however on average, g v a is so onesided its laughable.  especially if someone picks DA its gg. 

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Reply #16 December 22, 2009 4:00:11 PM
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Fail

QoT is the most vulnerable DG to the Boulder / Hammer combo... she has no interrupt, and has a huge footprint making dodging it impossible. QoT is hopeless against a typical tower rook who gets boulder/hammer 

Also, that "QoT can solo any assasin past 7" only works until about level 12. A level 20 queen cannot beat a level 15 anything except reg.

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