32 from 35 in a 1v1 game like Starcraft would be a godly record, unfortunately stats don't mean anything in DG because it's reliant on passable teammates, even if you can solowin to a degree against newbies. Rank is also pretty meaningless, since it's based on experience which doesn't seem to be a measure of...anything much.

I have no reason to believe I'm a better player than you despite having a higher rank (you're probably better than me, I've been playing DoW2 lately), and the shoddy stats tracking is only further hurting the estimations as to who is good and who isn't.

I stand by my assessment that we just need people to be better at the game, and a team automatch option.

A big chunk of my games that you would class as "Premade" (and someone had the nerve to whine at me in game for being a stacker while I was doing this) were actually me on the mic teaching a friend how to play. A fair portion of the games I play with Verspunken we try out more left-field tactics that invariably are less effective than just health stacking and buying creeps, so it's not like we are making game after game and stomping through all opposition unopposed. If people like Ryanheart and Stacked Actor join our games its generally a decent fight, the problem is that there just aren't enough people at that level of competancy and a single poor player can ruin the game for all of us.

To answer your OP: They don't play each other because it's extra effort to get a game going. A single random joining so one of your teammates can't get in creates issues. Hosts playing with fsk stupid game settings causes issues. People wanting no doubles/no minion erebus/no people with 3 arms cause issues. Host disconnect problems cause trust issues. People wanting to play Exile because it's pretty cause issues.

To avoid all the hassle, most premades just make their own game. There's not even any guaruntee that a pre vs pre game would be anytihng other than a walkover anyway, many premade teams I've seen have been worse than randoms.

Are there actually any competitive teams left? Mine has moved to DoW2 at least until there's a hassle free way to find other teams to play with.

i agree with stacked/ryan and all others that r on the same page as them.

seriously ... premades are nothing to argue about FULL STOP. I felt i needed to emphasize that.

find something worth arguing, or suggest something. Do something constructive!

I know of 2 or 3 other teams who moved onto other games as well, I don't blame them considering how a large (and clueless) portion of the community treats them, not to mention the lack of support for teams for 3 months now, or is it 4?

I gotta say, it doesn't feel like the number of premades are that high.  I play with my friend(s) almost exclusively, and we rarely host games.  We join games as a group (usually 2 of us joining 3v3 games).  I feel like we often still don't end up playing against premades, even tho that is one of the reasons we join other players' games instead of hosting our own.

Next patch stats will be visible in game and premades who refuse to fight players with similar records will hopefully have a much harder time playing at all. 

The community as a whole needs to develop here when it comes to personal matchmaking. Automated matchmaking needs to get implemented, but having stats visible will give players the ability to do exactly what the invisible hand would normally do.

Noobs need to stomp joining 'pro' and 'expert' games and experts need to start kicking them on sight and fighting each other. I really think that stats are going to thin out the pool of 'noobs' in these pro games and at the very least it'll be easier to ridicule the less scrupulous teams. Screenshots of dudes with 90% win rates getting ready to start games against 10% win rate players should start making their way into the hall of shame.

In the meantime just let it go. Premades don't routinely fight premades, they pub stomp, that's just the way it is. It's a cyclic problem in which every premade that fights pugs increases the wait time of other premades, who in turn get sick of waiting and fight pugs. On top of that only premades who host have any guarantee that the game will even be recorded.

If you're just venting then whatever, do what makes you feel good, but if you're trying to evoke genuine outcry or change there's no point. Anyone who understands what's going on is just waiting for the patch.

I have nothing against premades as long as they are willing to put "premade" or "pro", "experienced", "skilled" or "good player" or something that indicates they are good players in their game titles. People might argue that putting a "pro" label in their game tittles doesn't necessary help because some bad players would just join eventually. But at least, by putting a label in their game titles increases a little, if not much  the chance of good players joining their games.

Probably the best course of action.

OTOH something good came out of the thread - woppin's response for example  

Let's be careful here. There's no such thing.

http://forums.demigodthegame.com/360337/get;2320701

Heres a tip everyone shut up and kiss.

In theory, ok, in practice this would be the death of the Aus DG community, so it will never happen. The only option we have is to raise the overall skill level so that we are all roughly on par with each other.

US/EU may have a large enough player pool to start that sort of segregation but it's hard enough getting a game already during anytihng other than peak hours that I'm not going to kick anyone except known cheaters at this point in time.