Balanced by mana cost.

Just make uproot better so least QoT is dangerous at something.

I agree entirely with your post, DalzK.

Though I would actually change it a bit. I would amend the damage to:

Rank 1: 50 damage + 450 DOT to 150 damage + 300 DOT

Rank 2: 100 damage + 800 DOT to 300 damage + 500 DOT

Rank 3: 150 damage + 1150 DOT to 500 damage + 700 DOT

Rank 4: 150 damage + 1500 DOT to 600 damage + 900 DOT

or so. Spit might be slightly too good against Torchbearer or a Tower, but it's actually not good enough against a Heal Sedna or any other general, because she can make it do almost no damage while healing through UB's entire auto-attack damage as well. Reducing the total damage while frontloading a larger portion of it would be fair to everyone involved.

Disclaimer: I don't have enough QoT experience to speak with too much authority.

What if they built Violent Seige right in? My early game strategy often involves retreating towards towers for safety. But if said tower was shaking itself apart, it might be more dangerous. Just brainstorming a bit here.

Agreed I only have real issues with Sedna early game and if I'm in the same lane as her I just sit by my tower and farm creeps.  By the time I get to level 5-7 I usually can handle Sedna.  Foul grasp works wonders on her.

I think it depends a little, but once she hits Heal III, if she's the same level / gold, you cannot kill her unless she overextends. It heals 1200 HP, removes Spit, and costs less mana than Spit. I've certainly run into unkillable Sednas before. They aren't super dangerous per se, but they can harrass the hell out of you without any danger.

I just think Spit is a little all or nothing right now against Sedna, Oak, Erebus, or any DG with the purifying signet favor item.

And btw for everyone who says uproot sucks have you tried using it ingame enough?

Ill admit I havent but I mean how much more damage do you want it do to towers?

hey guys i play ub and ub only so its not in my favor to ask for balance

but if so many peeps think its fine as, they are probs right!

i don't personally find that Venom Spit is severely imbalanced (as some claim it to be), but its definitely one of the strongest abilities in the game. it is balanced out at the moment by a fairly high mana cost (and by Beasts naturally somewhat small mana pool) but nothing is sacred and everything ought to be subject to review for rebalancing if necessary. Spit is currently high enough on the power level scale that it ought to be examined.

regarding the counters the OP mentioned

Oak's Shield does counter it completely, but is on a much much longer cooldown so it doesn't really neutralize the ability, it just counters one application of it. you'll get spit on again 7 seconds later and won't be able to Shield that one.

Queen's Bramble Shield doesn't counter it at all really. The spit will damage the shield with no loss of efficiency. it may seem that a Queen is able to avoid taking damage by Bramble Shielding through it but this isn't entirely accurate, its more like Queen just uses Bramble Shield as a supplement to her hitpoints in general. Spit still eats through it.

Erebus' Mist is a legitimately efficient counter to Spit. you can stay in the Mist for just 1 pulse and only spend 125 mana to remove all debuffs. this is fine though, its quite balanced by the penalty of having to spend about 3-4 seconds shifting into and out of Mist and doing basically nothing during this time.

Sedna's Heal is a pure counter to it at rank 3 and 4 when it will actually just remove the debuff completely. At rank 1 and 2 its not really any kind of counter, it just restores some lost health but it doesn't do anything to reduce the overall damage dealt by Spit.

the favor item and consumables that remove debuffs are good counters to it and are probably the best option for most DG's, though there's obviously a fairly high opportunity cost associated with using those.

I think you are right except the range of the spit seems a bit over the top. It just feels wrong for a mele only character to have such a range on their best attack.

This I vehemently disagree with. All his other abilities are melee only, and he his slow is one of the least effective (in terms of % slow anyways, if not overall) and is melee only.

I find it annoying because I see my health going down and now I can't get to the crystal quickly enough to survive, but that's my fault for not having a portable way of healing or not keeping my health up enough. I don't think it's over powered, just annoying.

UB may have strong melee dps but he is not a "melee" hero in the sense you're thinking. He's a hit and run melee hero meaning he needs ways of weaking an oppenent with hit and run tactics then using his speed to finish them. Rook or erebus are melee heroes in the sense you're thinking, UB not so much.