You know I agree with you, made several comments and even got accused of being "hot under the collar."

I made a joke on IRC about the whole thing...said I should go get a bunch of photos from sxc.hu, plaster "Vista" on them, upload them here and watch the download count soar. *sigh*

I guess its contributing in its lowest form, I dunno, makes no sense to me either.

Hope its nipped in the bud.   

Ok....I saw this cool WB at dA, the author hasn't submitted it here...was going to ask them about doing it but hey, if I can get permission and upload it myself, coolies for me!

Okay...Think im catching on Jafo,

I dont have to agree, as allot of people dont im sure, but, I do understand a bit better...

Thanks for the clarification.

Really dont intend any "disrespect" Skinhit.. But the "Permission" given/not isnt really the main issue here...

It was a point made by Jafo,and made *well, but really not what or why Boss began this thread...

Recoloring a wall takes a measure of talent to begin with

well that's not quite true...all it takes is a fairly average graphics proggy and one click on a hue-shift.

Talent? No.

Minimum one finger [or similar appendage}? Yes....

Well a bit more than DL/UL, and a bit more than that to make someone else thinks it's acceptible like say, the creator of the wall your defacing??..LoL

And what would be the harm?  It's rare that artwork submitted is the cause of the banning. (And if you were to post material that justified banning . . you would be out too.)

While I would rather the original artist post their own work, I've no issue with someone else promoting other's work (with permissions).  At a minimum I'd like to see a link to the original authors work, but it's not necessary.

More rules do not always help the community.  Sometimes the community needs to loosen up a bit. 

If the original artist is cool with the situation, who are we to question?

I'm sorry folks for creating this mess with the " Wall " i posted
it was never my intention for a fight to break out over it .
Just a simple wall with permission attached that I thought all would
like. With 650 downloads in one day i guessed right !

This wall did NOT go up overnight - there were e-mails back and forth
between Zoomba and myself as he gathered detailed info - so as to make
the right decision ( according to the Rules ) - then it got posted - for 1 day !
and then pulled back into moderation once again.

It seems there would be a select few who think the rules don't apply to them.
and that their voice is all that should matter and if that doesn't work - then
by all means , change the rules to fit .

The Mods gota have a tuff job sorting thru all this stuff - and some of it has
to fall in the " Gray area " i'm sure making for tuff decisions to be made,
but they are the Mods and that's their job - and ALL decisions then should
be FINAL !!! the END -they except or rejct based on ALL the info the have gathered
We are not privy to that info - to be the Judges

It's the rules that help make this site what it is and why you hear the word " Family "
tossed around freely - what other site talks about it's family ??

I could of posted that Wall at a 100 other sites - with no permission - and it
would have been accepted , i'll bets'ya ..... but I didn't and haven't .. 'cause

This is the " Family " I wanted to share it with ...

I know I could just " Delete " and make this go away .. so could they ( WC )
but the same problem would just return again sooner or later .. So I'll wait for a final Decision and live by it .............. THE END ......

PS ... through e-mail I did invite the artist to
come and check out this site and maybe become a member
if he has something more to share and or the time ....
and of course I told him if he does come on board with
us , that I would delete his photo so he could post it..
I haven't heard back from him though ... and Mike ...( Zoomba ) was given his e-mail address so all this could be verified -

Fairyy~
If someone was banned for posting inappropriate material and you reposted it with permission, you would be banned.
If you posted someone's material (with their permission) it would be accepted (as long as it met the other WC guidelines).

Over the years other people have pulled their skins or asked that their skins be removed.  It would be unlikely that they would ask someone or grant permission for someone else to post their work here. 

Again, I would rather see original artists post original work.  The system allows and has always allowed for other works to be posted with permission.  Some may take this "letter of the law" and use it to stretch the spirit and that's ok too.

In the end, we get more art here, right?

What would be a better answer? 

We'll never know because I would never upload others' material for the sake of garnering 'download' counts. Which just seems the case when you upload Art from other sites.

Then there will always be the question of 'is the permission' real ?
How many times has it turned out that there was no permission at all. People lie.

I have taken the time to check on occasion when I have seen Artwork posted here that I knew I already had..and it turned out that the original artist didn't even know their work was here.

But, these are the rules so be it.