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New Vasari Battleship Abilities

June 18, 2012 10:51:27 PM from Sins of a Solar Empire ForumsSins of a Solar Empire Forums

I think the assault nanites are kind of useless. Their role is covered by combat nanites. The assault nanites should be replaced with flak nanites or some kind of utility nanites that slow down ships or reduce weapon recharge.

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Reply #1 June 18, 2012 11:01:51 PM
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I think the assault nanites are kind of useless. Their role is covered by combat nanites. The assault nanites should be replaced with flak nanites or some kind of utility nanites that slow down ships or reduce weapon recharge.

 

Isn't one of them anti-ship and the other anti-structure?

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Reply #2 June 18, 2012 11:12:07 PM
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The assault nanites are super long range and can only attack structures. They're meant to be like the Orgrovs, and the Vasari seriously need them as they lack a conventional antistructure cruiser.

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Reply #3 June 18, 2012 11:35:46 PM
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Quoting GoaFan77,
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The assault nanites are super long range and can only attack structures. They're meant to be like the Orgrovs, and the Vasari seriously need them as they lack a conventional antistructure cruiser.

 

The thing with Ogrovs is that you can get a ton of them and nuke all planet structures before the player realizes what happened. To make assault nanites useful, you would need like 10 of those capital ships. Plus they are on cooldown and use a ton of antimatter, so you can only have like 4 of them up at a time for each capital ship. 

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Reply #4 June 18, 2012 11:52:51 PM
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Quoting Khezef,
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The thing with Ogrovs is that you can get a ton of them and nuke all planet structures before the player realizes what happened. To make assault nanites useful, you would need like 10 of those capital ships. Plus they are on cooldown and use a ton of antimatter, so you can only have like 4 of them up at a time for each capital ship.

1. Assault nanites are free and use no fleet supply.

2. They only cost 40 antimatter. You'll restore that before they expire.

Yeah, they won't have the assault power of massed Ogrovs, but they'll be a heck of a lot more useful than combat nanites at clearing out planets and they're great for clearing out the defenses of unimportant planets by themselves. I agree you should put more points on combat drones but it can be useful to get a point in assualt nanites for this situation.

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Reply #5 June 19, 2012 1:30:15 AM
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Quoting GoaFan77,
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Quoting Khezef, reply 3The thing with Ogrovs is that you can get a ton of them and nuke all planet structures before the player realizes what happened. To make assault nanites useful, you would need like 10 of those capital ships. Plus they are on cooldown and use a ton of antimatter, so you can only have like 4 of them up at a time for each capital ship.

1. Assault nanites are free and use no fleet supply.

2. They only cost 40 antimatter. You'll restore that before they expire.

Yeah, they won't have the assault power of massed Ogrovs, but they'll be a heck of a lot more useful than combat nanites at clearing out planets and they're great for clearing out the defenses of unimportant planets by themselves. I agree you should put more points on combat drones but it can be useful to get a point in assualt nanites for this situation.

 

But if the Rankulas is there in enough numbers to supply a bunch of assault nanites, there is probably a large fleet supporting it. The fleet itself will do more damage than a crappy ability.

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Reply #6 June 19, 2012 2:15:55 AM
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Quoting Khezef,
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But if the Rankulas is there in enough numbers to supply a bunch of assault nanites, there is probably a large fleet supporting it. The fleet itself will do more damage than a crappy ability.

You don't need more than one Rankulas. Either you use it for mop up duty so the rest of your fleet can attacking something else, or you use assault nanites while waiting for your bombers to snipe a starbase in which case you're fleet is probably just waiting around anyways.

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Reply #7 June 20, 2012 10:10:11 AM
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Quoting GoaFan77,
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You don't need more than one Rankulas. Either you use it for mop up duty so the rest of your fleet can attacking something else, or you use assault nanites while waiting for your bombers to snipe a starbase in which case you're fleet is probably just waiting around anyways.

But I think the repairing nanites of Rankulas are useful... Especially I'm frustrated on Chastic Burst, The Maw and Nano Leech, and most of my regular ships are just sitting behind the capital ships.

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Reply #8 June 20, 2012 10:48:10 PM
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The Rankulas is a piece of shit. The skirantra can do everything it can do better.

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Reply #9 June 20, 2012 10:55:41 PM
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The Rankulas is advantageous early-game because it can produce its own frigates instead of having to rely on your precious early-game resource pool, delaying the point at which you have to upgrade your fleet capacity.

That said, despite how effective it is early on, it doesn't scale well into the late-game.

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Reply #10 June 21, 2012 12:14:49 AM
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Quoting Volt_Cruelerz,
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The Rankulas is advantageous early-game because it can produce its own frigates instead of having to rely on your precious early-game resource pool, delaying the point at which you have to upgrade your fleet capacity.

That said, despite how effective it is early on, it doesn't scale well into the late-game.

I agree but those support nanites are good all game in my opinion.

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Reply #11 June 21, 2012 11:44:21 AM
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Quoting excartus,
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verything it can do better.

Really that just says more about the combat abilities of the Skinantra than the Rankulus.

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