Hit points are what counters ability damage, and while you can increase HP almost indefinitely, you cannot increase Ability damage.  I think you actually have the truth of it backwards.

If you really want to argue this point, though, I would suggest you do it in a different thread, where the OP isn't simply spouting off rhetoric, and QQ ing about how TB owns them.

http://forums.demigodthegame.com/358032

what a joke. You said that you NEED HP items. but yopu also need them in one on one. You need them always - they are almost better than the rest.

But see that's the thing.  If it was 1v1 a balance of hp, armor, damage and such would probably be much better than all HP.

Since it isn't 1v1 and you're eating focus fire ability spam, HP is *always* preferred.

Because when one thing is ALWAYS both the right choice and the only choice, by definition that's Imbalanced and OP.

.....Yes?

Wasn't he health stacking too. If so thats proving our point. The super regen sedna is just HP items behind a lot of mana potions and a hungerling helm.

Yes but how many of those builds revolve around some other tactic that is considered OP or at least a bit too powerful.

Mine reg at level 7 you have a burst of 1200 damage against people who don't health stack may have 3k health. Damage can be done without you being there.

Towers for rook at level 1 you can be doing around 150 dps WITHOUT you even being there At leve 10 you can have 8 towers doing around 600 dps+ without you there.

Spit UB build. Easily you can deal a third of someones health every 10 seconds without you even being there.

Fire torchbearer has many skills that are great hit and run farming. Abilities do so much damage HP stacking is needed to counter. If you don't stack there is almost no way to overcome 1700 burst damage at level 10 without stacking HP. This build isn't even considered OP and still requires health stacking to defend against it.

The main thing is HP is needed against all the builds that don't revolve around health stacking PROVING the necessity. The point of these is the fact is they can kill you from the dead. So even if you don't  health stack and your fire torchbearer. You can kill the enemy but then get killed by their tactics from the dead. Complete fail on your behalf. Now if you get health at least you won't die which is a plus. Even if only half the people Health stack and the other half do something else the thing is to counter ability builds HEALTH STACKING is either required to compete with them or you have to have some major pots and dps on your behalf. So that the spit doens't kill you from the dead or towers don't kill you or the burst damage doesn't immediatly cut out half your health.

Sure hp stacking isn't MANDATORY for even most builds but AGAINST THEM. It's not the builds that need them it's the counter to other's builds. And it just helps that the HP items are cheap and easy to get a ton of.

QFT!

nerfing hp items destroys balance!

Hey spamatron necro, Sedna is not even close to OP.

Ok, try to kill her with UB. Herotron superprofessional megaplayer.

Mmm, I do love me some sedna in the morning. Helps with the aches and pains.

I mean, the combination UB + HitPoint stacking is too strong.

It would make a nice name for some pain killer pills. Go market it with GPG and stardock endorsements.

Cmmon, leave him alone babling about his 10k ub opponent and not being able to match it with his TB, making a case for his HP items.

I've personally been in enough 1v1 brawls with Fire TB to know for sure that no HP stacking stands against his sustained late-game damage.  Thats at least one build of TB that doesn't suffer against HP stacking.  Add to that a team with stuns/snares and Fire TB is actually your best asset against HP stackers (please don't forget armor stacks too...).

I've been in 1 game where a UB player managed to get to 11K hp (same team though).  That game, I as TB had 13,4K hp, 73.9% armor, 25% damage mitigation and 25% evasion.  Only shows how ridiculous 150K+ gold can be...

UPS. didn't mean to bump...