Fistleaf

Join Date 04/2006

Capital bonus / Homeworld anomaly

I lost my homeworld (planet A) and the capital is moved to another planet B. This new planet B gets the capital bonus (food, influence bonus etc). However, when I recaptured the lost planet A and tried to set this planet A as the homeworld again, this planet A did not get the capital bonus, the bonus still remains on planet B (no longer the homeworld). Is this a bug or is it intended to prevent exploits?

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I've noticed this as well, but it's rare enough that I need to move my capital that it never really bothered me.

For what it's worth, I'm almost positive it's a bug.

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Doesn't sound like a bug to me.

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Quoting tetleytea,

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Doesn't sound like a bug to me.

When you move your capital from planet A to planet B, planet A should revert its first building to an Initial Colony instead of a Civilization Capital, and vice versa.

Repeat ad infinitum.

What's not to see?

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That's not what he said.

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However, when I recaptured the lost planet A and tried to set this planet A as the homeworld again, this planet A did not get the capital bonus, the bonus still remains on planet B (no longer the homeworld).

Civilization capital isn't properly moving to planet set as capital.

The food/influence bonuses are to my knowledge tied to the civilization capital improvement, so it's safe to assume the improvement didn't move.

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Doesn't sound like a bug to me. Unlike in Civilization where you could move your "Palace" at will, the Homeworld Capital is a static infrastructure unit in GalCiv. So, if you lost "Earth" and your capital moved to "Mars", there is only one way you could move it back to Earth, and that is to lose Mars and have Earth be your only remaining planet.

In short, if you want your homeworld to always be your real homeworld, don't let it fall into enemy hands.

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Then why do we have a Set As Homeworld button?

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Just gave this a cursory test, and civ capitol improvement doesn't move at all. Gave Earth to the Drengin, and my new capitol had a initial colony building, not a civ capitol. Took Earth back, and it still had the civ capitol building, but wasn't my capitol. Also, the set as homeworld button was grayed out, meaning I never even got the option of changing my homeworld.

I know damn well that AI's don't get that benefit. I take their capitol, it still has the civ capitol building even when I own it.. I take whatever world they moved their capitol to, it has an initial colony building, not a civ capitol.

I seem to recall this being changed early in DA, as people were using this as an exploit. What version are you running, fistleaf?

*edit* The set homeworld button is a holdover from earlier versions, I can't remember the last time I saw it functional.

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That would explain it.

I think the last time I used it was in DL.

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I have the Ultimate Edition, but I am playing the DL campaign. It's DL v1.52, which should be the latest version, I think.

Not being able to set homeworld usually won't be a problem, however if I recapture my capital, the loss of food bonus and the corresponding lower population is bad if the Economic Capital is on this planet.

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So...build a farm?

There's a soft upper limit on population anyway, around 18-20B-ideally all your planets should be in the same population range, as well. So you'd pretty much have to build a farm on the other planet (at some point) even if you could move your civilization capital.

Also, for what it's worth, farms are of somewhat less importance because they're not quite as efficient at improving your economy as economic buildings.

Additionally...the economic capital is simply the equivalent of two stock markets. It's gotten to the point where I barely even worry about where I place mine-all it really does is count as an extra tile with a stock market on it, from my perspective. Admittedly, relatively early game, it makes more of a difference, but early game I'm always losing money anyway, due to my low tax rate, so it almost doesn't matter just how much money I'm losing.

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