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[.992][supposedly not a BUG] Guillotine Axe weighs 80!! OMG

October 21, 2012 6:26:06 PM from Elemental ForumsElemental Forums


I'm thinking it is a typo, because a banishing mace is the same base damage and only weighs 15.....

80 is more than the armour I was wearing is....

Or you could bump its attack stat to something silly   impossible to wear armour and weild that thing at the same time!   My axe is much bigger than yours!!!

edit: changed the title to be "supposedly not a bug", I still think it's wrong based on dmg:weight ratio.

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Reply #1 October 21, 2012 6:29:05 PM
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That axe is for Juggernauts only. The weight is fine for them.

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Reply #2 October 21, 2012 6:35:02 PM
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but what about the Golumn sheild, it weighs 45 = as much as an entire suite of armour

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Reply #3 October 21, 2012 6:49:35 PM
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And it is for Iron Golems only.

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Reply #4 October 21, 2012 6:53:24 PM
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Maybe it needs a quote on it along the lines of 'Too heavy to wield for any but the mighty Juggernauts'. At the moment it is a little confusing if one does not realize.

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Reply #5 October 21, 2012 7:09:22 PM
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Just look at where it says "Weight: 80" on the item.  I always check weight before placing something with one of my champions, since encumbrance is a big factor in initiative.  You should consider checking that out all the time, too.

 

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Reply #6 October 21, 2012 9:11:33 PM
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Regular units can use it, but they have to be Urxen, take both strength traits, and be riding horses. Just before upgrading to 992 I was playing a Verga game where I designed such a unit and gave them leather armour (so they were heavily encumbered). However I then upgraded to 992 before finishing that game, so I haven't actually managed to put the unit to use. I think it would have been worth the initiative hit because they would have had 90 attack.

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Reply #7 October 21, 2012 11:03:51 PM
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90 attack??   this axe only has 19!! 

The axe was a loot item, I figured I'd just switch between it and the banishing mace (which has the same base damage but different buffs) depending on whether I'm fighting elementals or not.

Jugganaught only axe hey..... I understand the golem shield (it rocks), but an axe that is no more powerful than anything else.....  80!!  80 I say! 

It's all good.  Thanks all for the heads up on the axe being for Juggs only!

PS:  odd design decision, imo.

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Reply #8 October 22, 2012 1:53:56 AM
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The fun part is wielding it with your sovereign. Which I did once. It is awesome. It isn't the best quality weapon, but I was telling someone about how cool this game was and I told them the story of how I picked up this axe that only giants could wield, and my character was wielding it. Good stuff.

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Reply #9 October 22, 2012 2:21:08 AM
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Quoting StillSingle,
reply 8

90 attack??   this axe only has 19!! 

19 attack (including trait that gives +1 attack) * 5 figure unit = 95 damage attack.

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Reply #10 October 22, 2012 6:31:58 PM
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oh wow, you had a team of berserkers that don't like armour wielding giant axes!!  that is cool

So is the Sovereign waltzing around with the giant's axe

Does it actually show up stupidly large in the tactical battle?   I'd want it to look twice the size of my Sov if he/she was using it!!

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Reply #11 October 22, 2012 7:27:57 PM
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Quoting ben_sphynx,
reply 5
Maybe it needs a quote on it along the lines of 'Too heavy to wield for any but the mighty Juggernauts'. At the moment it is a little confusing if one does not realize.

I think this would be a nice move.

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Reply #12 October 22, 2012 7:35:19 PM
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Quoting Kongdej,
reply 12

Quoting ben_sphynx, reply 5Maybe it needs a quote on it along the lines of 'Too heavy to wield for any but the mighty Juggernauts'. At the moment it is a little confusing if one does not realize.

I think this would be a nice move.

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On the other hand, I wouldn't say no to an animated visual of a champion you've given the thing to hefting it, wobbling about, and then falling over on its face.  No words necessary.

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Reply #13 October 22, 2012 7:44:12 PM
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In the previous game I played one of the AI sovs was actually using this weapon and path of the assassin. They had (enchanted backpack?) that gave +20 to strength and other +strength item equips, within the first 100 turns of the game as well, a formidable opponent.

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Reply #14 October 22, 2012 8:44:09 PM
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Quoting Glazunov1,
reply 13
On the other hand, I wouldn't say no to an animated visual of a champion you've given the thing to hefting it, wobbling about, and then falling over on its face. No words necessary.

Well you are still able to carry it about if you REAALLY want (And was born a trog). It was more for the flavour, and helping people understand it is not for a commoners hands...

I know you don't find it necessary...

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Reply #15 October 22, 2012 9:06:28 PM
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Quoting Kongdej,
reply 15

Quoting Glazunov1, reply 13On the other hand, I wouldn't say no to an animated visual of a champion you've given the thing to hefting it, wobbling about, and then falling over on its face. No words necessary.

Well you are still able to carry it about if you REAALLY want (And was born a trog). It was more for the flavour, and helping people understand it is not for a commoners hands...

I know you don't find it necessary...

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On the contrary.  I was just having some fun--whoever heard of a little representative in a game about heroes picking up a heavy weapon, lurching about uncertainly, and then falling over?  Thought you, of all people, would catch that. No harm done!

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Reply #16 October 22, 2012 9:42:26 PM
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Quoting Glazunov1,
reply 16
whoever heard of a little representative in a game about heroes picking up a heavy weapon, lurching about uncertainly, and then falling over? Thought you, of all people, would catch that.

Hmm. Duh ... It would be a funny animation, just thought... Oh well sometimes I'm silly too Would love to see a little animation thingie.

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