No, that's not it, as I've gotten 1900 criticals on archers and minotaurs. It shouldn't be affected by armor since it's a skill, although it may be some sort of damage mitigation given by an item(although the only item I know of that gives that is bulwark, which is an artifact) or a skill, such as acclimation. Or perhaps it's affected by HPS?

In all honesty I have no idea.

EDIT: Also, I've noticed that sometimes Ooze does 55 dps to yourself instead of 50 at rank IV, or 38 dps instead of 30 at rank II.

10% damage flags probably account for a lot of it?

Although I'm sure I've had it happen to me on maps without them as well, like prison.

As i have just bought the game i would have no knowledge on the subject but, the attack sounding like an AOE do you think distance would mitigate it at all..?

I have also observed this with this ability, and a few others that I can't recall off the top of my head.  Fireballs always do their listed damage + bonus for penitence or debilitation.  Rain of Ice almost always does slightly LESS than the damage listed.  It is very odd, especially because it is often not very much damage off.

Yep, I've seen my max bite skill with Erebus do 445dmg (should do 775), Torchbearer fireball at max level should do 1050, yet it hits for some weird number like 932 sometimes, sedna's pounce max 1000dmg, yet often hits for less. Wtf is going on here? I thought skills were guaranteed damage?

EDIT: This is against other Demigods, I haven't payed attention to see if it does it against creeps, but I see no reason why it would be any different.

HPS? You mean hit points per second? That couldn't explain it. We are talking about the numbers shown above people's heads, not the amount of HP they had after casting.

I'm so happy to know I haven't gone insane, haha.

Odd thing is that it can't be armor, either, because 777 from a 800 damage spell is less than 3%.

The other day I got hit by a Boulder Roll for 223. So yeah, it's not just from Rain of Ice, I guess I just notice that more cuz I like to play TB more.

Funny thing about creeps is that when I RoI them, they all take different damage. In theory, I should see all 800s above them when RoI hits, right? But on the same cast, they all take 734, 729, 799, 776, etc. On the same cast! Demigods too, so it's not just a creeps/grunts issue.

Maybe there is a random damage generator for AoE spells? I can't think of any single-target spell examples. So 800 damage is actually 750-850 or something like that, for example.

Also, Valor flags only affect grunts, I believe.

I know, it's so very odd.

And I've NEVER seen something like Pounce do anything but its set damage though.  Only Rain of Ice....

Belive most damage in Demigod got a +-5% variable

I doubt it is a bug, probably just an unlisted feature. .

Honestly though, it is harder to do damage wrong like this, than right. I mean, you set the damage number, you apply it to targets... really simple. In order for you to accidentally randomize it... I just can't imagine that.

ive had plus dmg with bite... 775 turned to 840 dmg or something like that a couple of times ..

maybe if the enemy is suffereing from some sort of def debuff, maybe it dos more?

i cant explain y it would do less as i have experienced it before...

The only thing that I can think of is that the portal minion armor upgrades are applying to Rain of Ice damage.  And also maybe any +armor auras might be interfering. The damage of the ability itself seems completely fixed at 200/level, looking at the ability file.

That's the Debilitating flag. 775 * 1.1 = 853.