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Is this a rip?

September 13, 2003 11:10:35 PM from WinCustomize ForumsWinCustomize Forums
From themexp:

http://files.themexp.org/screenshots/vs/32269.jpg

and Voodoo's:

http://skins.wincustomize.com/Voodoo_FreaK/wb/LonghornM4WB4PreviewUpdate.jpg

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Reply #1 September 13, 2003 11:14:46 PM
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Hard to say.. there are so many "Longhorn" things floating around...
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Reply #2 September 13, 2003 11:23:50 PM
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Well, VF's says it was taken from a screenshot. It might very well be the same for the StyleXP skinner. I know there is a corona skin that is damn close to Alexadnrie's, but they are both originals copied from the same style. We need more details...
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Reply #3 September 13, 2003 11:50:52 PM
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I think Voodoo_Freak wouldn't go so crazy to rip other's skins.
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Reply #4 September 14, 2003 12:08:43 AM
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I was thinking it was the StyleXP as the possible rip...it's a crappy picture so I can't really tell. We all know Voodoo_Freak wouldn't rip something.
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Reply #5 September 14, 2003 2:17:12 AM
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would be more worried about this:

http://www.themexp.org/view_info.php?id=11359
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Reply #6 September 14, 2003 7:01:07 AM
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Now *this* is a Rip!

http://www.riptaylor.com/index2.html
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Reply #7 September 14, 2003 7:03:02 AM
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Reply #8 September 14, 2003 7:03:11 AM
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In the strictest sense, since they're both based on the Longhorn UI then both could be taken as rips.
However, the graphics of both skins are totally different from each other, so neither skinner has ripped from the other.
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Reply #9 September 14, 2003 7:05:36 AM
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I don't think that it is a "rip".  They just look a lot alike because they
were inspired by the same source.  The gradients and edge detail look
different, also.  Plus, I have known Voo for quite some time, and even
though he's insane, he doesn't rip other's work.
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Reply #10 September 14, 2003 8:49:04 AM
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an admin please check #5
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Reply #11 September 14, 2003 9:26:08 AM
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Styl : No rip IMHO as this is taken from a MS Mediaplayer design originally.
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Reply #12 September 14, 2003 9:26:54 AM
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Have a look at this rip http://www.thesmokinggun.com/doc_o_day/doc_o_day.html


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Reply #13 September 14, 2003 9:43:04 AM
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c242, it can be taken from that design but it 'matches' 100%.

I am sure its the pixtudio's skin converted to a .theme file.
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Reply #14 September 14, 2003 10:51:36 AM
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There are a lot of differences, if You look closely.



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Reply #15 September 14, 2003 11:31:10 AM
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Well Longhorn known as Plex has gone through some major changes from those shots now. Quite a lot of it has my own unique look now which includes M3, M4, M5 and Aero which is almost complete but just not had time to put it altogether. As i am building Longhorn like a development blind showing all its changes from all the alpha builds.

As the blind was based on Official Plex screenshots, not msstyles people as you'll notice most of msstyles themes come bundled in a installer which i dont trust plus you'll see theres more than 30 Longhorn msstyles on ThemeXP that have been made which are no different.

The reason i made it was because noone else made Longhorn for WindowBlinds or other sites that ive seen.

https://www.wincustomize.com/skins.asp?searchtext=Longhorn&sort=updatedate&order=Descending&library=1
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Reply #16 September 14, 2003 2:01:02 PM
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Now this is what i call a rip



Must have been that TexMex i had last night
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Reply #17 September 14, 2003 2:10:24 PM
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I hate to be all technical, but if a work isn't truly copyrighted, and put out on the net for public consumption, then I would say that the term "rip" cannot apply, and that the work is public domain, free to take and change however one chooses to do so.Just a thought......
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Reply #18 September 14, 2003 5:34:45 PM
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No. 75, such is true but only for personal use. You cannot take someone else's theme change it and then distribute it under your name as if you created it, unless ofcourse you have permission to do so. Otherwise it is considered ripping.
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Reply #19 September 14, 2003 7:24:10 PM
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No.75.....yes, if the work 'isn't truly copyrighted', however there-in lies the rub......ALL works are copyrighted....no, they DO NOT need to be 'registered' as such. Anything created solely by one individual remains the property of that individual and cannot be publicly distributed in any form, modified or otherwise....without PRIOR CONSENT of that individual.

Understand, appreciate and respect that and we'll all get along just swimmingly....

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Reply #20 September 14, 2003 7:47:36 PM
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I understand what you all are saying. Ripping may not be nice, but without a legal copyright, your argument is moot.
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Reply #21 September 14, 2003 7:53:13 PM
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this reminds me of when XP came out.
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Reply #22 September 14, 2003 7:59:09 PM
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No. 75, I can tell you that as bad as I hate to admit he's right. I'll give in this time and say that.........jafo's right ! Our band driven has already dealt with all this copyright stuff. If you do ANYTHING it belongs to you. YOU DON'T EVEN HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE MOTION OF FILING IT. If you go to the copyright offic site they won't even encourage you to officially file ANYTHING unless you just want to. THE LAW PROTECTS YOU PERIOD. Also you will read that anything provide by you to the public is considered "Published". You can't stop anyone from using it personally, screen shot etc... However, if they alter it it cannot be redistributed in "ANY NAME" without your written consent. They cannot redistribute the original in "ANY MANNER" without your written consent. That's the law, that's the way it is. Once we put a song on a CD we can't keep anyone from singing it. They cannot re-record it or re-distribute it "IN ANY MANNER" without our written consent. Does this help clear things up or make it muddier? Just remember....The law is written in a manner that "YOU DO NOT HAVE TO FILE ANYTHING TO RECEIVE THE SAME PROTECTION". Thanks
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Reply #23 September 15, 2003 1:17:39 AM
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No. 75, first of all, evrything what is created is copyrighted. the official author is the OWNER of it.
Second of all there all smallthings that an artist can do to protect his work. (for example, when an artist puts his works in an envelop and send it to himself, then a print of the work with a date on the envelop can be proof that it is created by him.) can you tell the diffrend in that case?


'the work is public domain, free to take and change however one chooses to do so.'

thats what they all think, thats why they rip....
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Reply #24 September 15, 2003 1:35:23 AM
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what i call a rip is that wincostermize can take your things and sellem lol
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Reply #25 September 15, 2003 3:29:33 AM
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#24 by Citizen SoliD_NuTs - 9/15/2003 1:35:23 AM what i call a rip is that wincostermize can take your things and sellem lol


Any site could do that if they wanted to.
But obviously you have some proof that WC have been doing so, no?
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