I guess the main point is that the strong DGs either have an instant ranged interrupt or a stun.

DA and Reg have neither, and it is a contributing factor to why they blow in a stand up fight.

Warp Strike Interrupt and MotB interrupt would unsuck them by vasts amounts.

I disagree.

DA and Regulus suck because they have low hp and cannot tank damage this is why they are the number 1 target of large fights and die the easiest. Throwing random interrupts on them will not change this fact nor will it make them live longer.

The way to play DA and Regulus is to look for sneaky kills, set traps, and assist the tier 1 fellows. Enhancing attributes that make aiding the other DG's is the way to go. Increased base speed to 6.3, 100% activation of stun and impedence blow on snipe at level 15, and give warp area a renovation.

Again, your not ever going to turn DA and Regulus into tier 1 demigods. They will never compete with them it is just not part of there character design.

Reg and Sedna have an unusual relationship. 

In a 1v1 situation, it's an immoveable object and an unstoppable force. Sedna cannot do anything to harm the Reg. Reg cannot do much to force a Sedna out of a lane (assuming that the Sedna is properly geared, has bishops and keeps them back and out of mines and uses minotaur-minions to minesweep). Yes, I know, eventually the Reg will force the Sedna back but it takes awhile and both will end up being oom.

In 2v2s, this is quite different since mines do significant AoE damage and Sedna can't heal through that. 

Yeah, when the regulus is on the other side of the map, snipe is pretty much nullified but that's like saying Silence counters Oak's Shield when she is on the wrong side of the map. 

Giving Regulus an extra 5% speed upsets the 1v1 dynamic a little and the 2v2 a lot. 

Sedna has a small health pool, compared to every other melee demigod and even to some ranged demigods. Against DA she has to Orb, but even then a swap > grasp and she'll usually be near death and she won't survive the 3 second cast back to the portal after the grasp stun expires. It's important that Sedna has the capacity to flee from DA almost as well as DA can chase (DA can always Warp Strike onto a monk or something to get close, but doing so does sacrifice damage on her later which can make the swap survivable). 

In 1v1, the extra speed will make no difference but Sedna should not be a free sack of gold to a team with a DA. 

The extra 5% speed on Sedna will not affect other matchups compared to DA and Reg having a 5% speed advantage on her. 

Hedgie: I get what you're saying, but Reg can already better afford to take a speed item than Sedna can.  According to your model, taking Anklet would make him able to completely dominate Sedna far more effectively than a simple 5% speed base speed increase would.  Also, this assumes the Reg has a level of Maim equal to Sedna's Inner Grace, and is somehow constantly re-activating it on her while kiting despite being the same speed with the same items while it's applied.  Otherwise, without Maim constantly on, she's going to be faster, even with his 5% base speed increase.

I'll give you DA, but DA's a damage-burst monster, and Sedna's health already makes him one of her worst matches.  There's nothing wrong with, or inherently imbalanced about that, given that Sedna is relatively durable over time, and reliable in plenty of other matchups.

Still not buying it.  You're approaching this like there is only one viable build for each of these characters, any if either of them deviates or gets a 5% buff, then OH GOD GAME OVER.  If that's the case (and I'm not even remotely convinced that it is), then there are a whole lot of things that need to be changed, because Reg is pretty terrible against everyone BUT Sedna.

Sedna is nowhere near as useless as Reg in an average 2v2 - 3v3.  Boosting Reg's speed by 5% doesn't suddenly make him better than Sedna in every matchup AND suddenly able to beat Sedna time and time again.  Frankly, I don't think it's going to do enough.

Sedna needs boosts too, but not to any of the skills that people use now (Inner Grace could use a bit more regen at II and III, but w/e).

Not seeing how giving the agreed weakest DG a Pen variant is rediculous. Whats more is that you really can't use Strike as your opening move since it puts you right next to the enemy DG who will likely curb stomp you.

Also the "stun" on swap is a 0.1 interrupt, and like I described earlier, it's easy enough to prevent it from causing cool down while still blocking a skill if it becomes a concern that DA should not be as strong as frost TB.

Like I said

Instant interrupt or Slow Stun... these are contributing factors to what makes the good DGs good. Now let me explain why I say this.

In addition to blocking a TP out.
It stops you from using a slow cast skill / item. (interrupt)
Or gives you a chance to beat on a DG while your skills refresh. (stun)

Swap does not offer either of those advantages, and although admittedly it is a great gank skill, it hasn't propelled DA to be a good DG.

Number of interrupts does not equal strength or usefulness.  DA is weak because he's soft and slow, not because he can't interrupt or can't gank (he can do both of those things just fine).

LO - I understand where you are coming from I just get the feeling you want every single dg to be equally powerful at every stage of the game - this is a bad idea and not why dg is a good game. Anyways...

Its pretty much suicide for DA to be first into a group battle early game. Late game he almost always picks up orb for this reason and his level 15 DA frenzy thing usually kicks in with treads for easier escape. Also, when you watch a good DA player they use warp for attack and also an effective escape (for example warping to a tower or minion to get away).

This is a good thing. Why should all ints be the same? - and like I said this one enables you to get the gank on shield-porting oak.

They need to be played completely differently as they fulfil completely different roles - and cant really be compared. So I don't see how you could even balance out these 2 (or why you would want to try)

We are just going to have to disagree here for the reasons already stated. Briefly, for example - giving reg a 100% effective int will not stop him being ganked due to speed, armor and hp issues - He is not a tank. It's the playstyle and game sense of the player that make dg's effective , (and whilst I acknowledge there are tiers for the dg's, that's actually what makes this game entertaining and shouldn't be changed).

only active players may discuss balance in this thread. 

Now start playing again ya bums (at least max has a good excuse). 

heh - edit - I suppose all you modders get a pass though.

hedgie - join the practice tournament - will only take 1 night.  I'll join you in retribution afterward and you can kick my ass.  I'm going to preorder that soon.... just not sure what preorder bonus I want yet. 

Not really.  There's no other skill like Snipe, no other skill like Deadeye, Mark, Scope, Impedance or even Mines.  Reg's only skill that's similar to anyone else's is Maim.  Even Angelic Fury is only distantly similar to God Strength, but not really.  No other Demigod plays anything like Reg.

So I'd say that's a pretty specious argument for handing out instant interrupts like candy.