TheGreatEmperor - and company!
Once again thanks for mentioning me as a possible candidate! Gratifying to say the least.   I looked over the requirements etc. and came up with a pretty good idea of how things might work out if I decided to "run for it"
If an cranky old geezer with a bad back, a knack for assuming the worst, and too much time on his hands is representative in a significant way ... well I suppose that might apply.

That would be fine, especially since ... well never mind ahem.
I'm not familiar with those aspects. I've only posted a few games. While the little experience I do have has been limited to figuring out why my firewall was getting in the way of posting the first 3 games, and am now in the process of figuring out why the 4th game mysteriously won't post after seeing the endgame screen ... that's all good experience if others had similar issues and some advice was needed for a possible fix, but maybe not the depth of experience to offer good counsel on the mods/scenarios/tournaments.
To quote from one of my favorite films, "Glory" ... "I'm not sure I'm wantin' this job, Colonel". While I certainly want to see the Metaverse succeed and flourish (especially in the game posting department) I'm not sure what amount of effort that implies, exactly. Remember I am an old geezer and I might drop over dead any minute, ah ... I wouldn't want to invite that kind of scenario   
"Forum presence" was mentioned in reference to me, and I suppose that might be true. I have a habit of expressing my opinions openly without fear ... I'm learning more about how to behave more constructively from the others who participate, rather than by any natural talent I possess. I'd like to think I contribute something worthwhile, but a lot of times I dread "having said something wrong" by not thinking enough first.
I see some of the ideas being born in the process that is happening here as a sort of pre-qualification phase. I kind of shy away from saying a lot about myself as an "interview with the prospective employer" because I tend to back-slide into political tactics ... I don't like that about myself, because I detest many politicians, kind of like a cat 'hates those stupid dogs' just on general principles if nothing more specific is handy ... but if there were some kind of 'local election' before the 'big primary' where I could rest on my own laurels without feeling like I was prostituting myself, and if my name was still in the hat, then I'd probably be willing to go the whole hog.

So, to conclude this long post graciously (I hope) - I posted this more out of courtesy and respect for those who take time to seriously participate here more than because I want the job, but if you can't find anyone better, I'll be willing, and my "rules" are fair, I think. My vote would probably go for nielo, or playjeff45, though.

Wait a minute, I resemble that remark.

The only way to go.

Usually, just having to wade through long boring posts without falling asleep, and to pick up enough of someone else's arguement to see that there might be a germ of truth in it.

Sounds perfect. The voting structure I mean.

Actually, another point has been brought up and that is should current councilors be allowed to vote. I had assumed that current MVC councilor should probably recuse themselves but when someone else made the suggestion I really wondered why we shouldn't. Certainly "real" politicians even vote for themselves and certainly as individuals each of us has a vested interest in the success of the metaverse.

I'd like to hear what the GC2 community feels about this.

I see no problem with you guys voting.

- Wyndstar

Yes, a current MVC councilor should have the opinion. Vote away. And the current voting structure as it stands is fine with me.

Hehe. I found out the hard way too.   



My thoughts exactly. If there's a reason for a particular counselor to have lost the public trust, that can be handled from within the council (recall or whatever). I'm unaware of anything related to that though. Members shouldn't give up their voice simply because they serve on the council. That's just silly.

As it stands, this is a test bed for future elections and reelections as well as to add new members. I believe the policies will come once we have some substantial data from this election to know the best way to implement this in the future.

I had believed from the start that the council seats were not permanent, since as with any game peoples interest and participation may change. We've already seen some of this, hence the need now to replace and expand the council.

We hope to get this show on the road soon, but right now we're trying to make sure all current councillors are present and accounted for as well as their opinions heard, since our recent "vacation" and forum switchover.

Again, I'd like to thank those that have stepped up and shown their interest in the welfare of the Metaverse and the GC2 community.

I continue to urge others to get their two cents in as well.

This method seems to cover most bases and doesn't leave any room for malicious voting. I think this thread has shown there is still alot of life in the MV and with any luck a few more nominee's will pop up before the election begins.

All right, I think we have a reasonable consensus on the issues that the MVC needed to resolve prior to heading into elections. In the interests of time and getting these elections started none of these issues have been decided by a formal vote but as I said it’s clear to me that we do have a “reasonable consensus” of agreement within the MVC.

The first of these issues is Wyndstar’s concern about the time commitment required by the MVC. Everyone has been pretty clear that one way or another, this will be fine. Either Wyndstar will be able to keep up with minimal check-ins to the MVC (i.e. once a week) during his peak busy periods or if this turns out to be too big a commitment then there is no real issue with going to a “sabbatical” as required. As far as the number of councilors the MVC would like to elect at this time the answer is two. There is also agreement that current MVC councilors should be allowed to vote although they should refrain from showing public support to any one nominee.

The other concern that has been resolved for awhile now but I’m not sure whether or not I mentioned it was the issue of the requirement of a metaverse game submission. The MVC did take a formal vote on the issue and it was approved that all MVC councilors and nominees are required to have submitted at least a single metaverse game but a metaverse game submission would not be a voting requirement.

So I think we have pretty much everything in place. One final issue is specifically how to deal with the multiple vote issue. It was suggested that there should be some kind of indication with each vote as to which the first choice was and which was the second choice and then somehow weighting the 1st, 2nd, … place votes. My suggestion was that each person would vote for a number of candidates equal to the number of open positions. I’m not sure but perhaps the “weighted’ method may be a statistically more “correct” method. Perhaps. But even if it is I doubt it is a significant advantage that out weighs the extra complexity involved. So I propose we go with everyone votes for two candidates and these votes are simply totaled and the top two are “elected”. This is consistent with the KISS principle that we strive to apply whenever possible.

The vote will occur by PM on the GalCiv2 site to designated MVC councilors that will tally the votes in private and at the end make the list of all voters, and who they voted for, public.

I’m certainly willing to hear some more discussion on any and all of these “proposals” but the window of opportunity for discussion is rapidly closing. I think this is consistent with the consensus opinion of both MVC councilors and the GalCiv2 community that we should “get on with it”.

At this point I want to list our current nominee’s and point out their “campaign speech” post for folks to check out. I think I’ll wait a day and then start another thread for brevities sake to do a further summary of the candidates and give them a final opportunity to make a statement and then essentially start the voting process.

The candidates in nomination acceptance order along with the post that seems to be most like a “campaign speech” are the following.

Neilo (reply #37)
Lynx xxx (reply #41)
Wyndstar (reply #78)
PlayJeff45 (reply #100)
ElWhopO (reply #102)

As a current MVC councilor I’m not supposed to show any particular favoritism towards any one candidate, and I don’t. But I do want to take the opportunity to say that I have every confidence that any and all of these candidates would make an excellent MVC councilor. I truly believe that while the capabilities of one or the other of these candidates may be marginally better than another’s, that all of these candidates have the best interests of the metaverse at heart. From that point of view the MVC can’t lose regardless of the outcome of these elections.

I also want to make mention and thank some of the folks that have participated in this thread, Purge, Cornhusker, MottiKhan, all very well known and respected members of the community. I’d also like to thank Swiffo for the opinion of someone that’s “relatively new to the forum” even though I wouldn’t take the opinion of anyone that’s submitted 5 suicidal wins lightly. I do want to say to all of these folks and the many more that have been paying attention to this thread to make sure to vote and help us encourage others to do so as well. This is your metaverse.

I'll open up a new thread tomorrow with details. I'd also like all the candidates to respond to that thread with a short paragraph. Nothing fancy, just a few heart felt words.

I'd like to give folks a decent amount of time to respond, I really don't want to cut this short. I'm thinking at least a week. Anyway, as I said I'll post some more tomorrow.

Thank you and you've got it. See the Voting for MVC Councilors starts Now thread that I just posted giving directions on how to participate. Thank you for your interest and support.