I would love Fences to offer an optional alternate UI with a normal-sized icon (customisable) for the "group" as an alternate to the collapsed title bar, with the group configurable as opening either as a popup (similar to many Android and other UIs) or opening/closing in a specific location on the screen (as with the roll-up to title bar style behaviour).
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With Windows 7, for those of us who wanted to organise our menus but had some apps that demanded menu folders or links to be there (arghhh) I used to hide the folder or link in Windows 7 - a bit rough and ready, but worked quite well. Start8 does not seem to honour the hidden flag - so can it either do so, or even better allow menu items and folders to be hidden within a user's settings for Start8, allowing apps which demand the start menu items to be for all users to be managed o
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