It has been about a month since I last asked about this.  I have tried to identify and rule out every other potential cause.  If I remember to kill Start11 before leaving my computer unattended for any substantial period of time, I don't have issues when I return.  If I forget to kill Start11, I have to slog through the lag until I can get Task Manager open and restart Explorer.

The computer is now on Win11 24H2 build 26100.3194, and I am still just running Start11 for the Win10-style menu.  I don't think I mentioned, but the external displays are two Dell U2422H monitors.  I don't know whether it has something to do with how Start11 handles the mix of low- and high-density displays, or how it handles the two displays coming back from sleep, or some other conflict.  I don't know whether you have been in any further communication with Aragain Falls about xer investigation with xer monitors.

If it helps to have a comprehensive list of the other software on my machine, on a typical workday, that software is generally some combination of:

• Windows 11 + whatever Dell/Intel drivers
• Auto Dark Mode
• PowerToys
• Sophos (which has reported no conflicts with Start11 or any other software on my machine)
• CrashPlan
• Dropbox
• Google Drive
• Google Chrome (stable)
• Firefox (stable)
• Slack
• MS Sticky Notes
• MS Office suite
• Adobe suite
• Notepad++
• VS Code
• Terminal + Git CLI
• MySQL Workbench
• Node.js
• WSL + Apache

Nothing especially unusual; by IT standards, Start11 is probably the most niche app I run on this machine.  And I have tried leaving the machine with just about everything but Start11 closed/disabled and still had the issue.

Please let me know if there is anything I can do to help solve this issue, or if there is a way I can install a version of Start11 prior to v2.5.  It is completely unsustainable to have my computer become unusable every time I forget to kill Start11 before I step away for lunch.  Thank you!

Would it be possible to set the default icon size used when pinning an application to the Start Menu? I always use the Win10 style with nearly all icons being "small", but when I pin something new it always chooses medium and I end up with all the current icons getting shuffled around.

Sorry if this is already an option, but the only one I could find was under Start Menu, Configure Menu, Advanced which says is for shortcuts but has no effect when I pin applications.

Hi, I have been having problems using True Launch Bar with Start11 v2.5+. I reverted back 2.11 for a while as that did not cause the issue with TLB. I have just tried disabling the enhanced task bar, and then reinstalling first v2.5.1 and then v2.5.2.
Both versions work ok with TLB so long as the enhanced taskbar is disabled. As soon as it is enabled the TLB disappears from the edge of the screen and am unable to show it again. Disabling the enhanced taskbar and restarting explorer brings back TLB, though it is resized to its smallest size, which i then have to set back to the desired size.
In summary, something has changed in Start11 between v2.11 and v2.5.1 that makes the TLB incompatible with the enhanced toolbar setting. Basically the TLB window disappears from the screen and is no longer accessible while the enhanced taskbar is activated.

I also notice that when changing enhanced toolbar settings, the TLB flashes briefly, it looks as if its getting covered by a mask.

I hope this information is somehow useful.

Quoting PL100,

reply 57

BUG: Right Click On Start > Open File Explorer

Using Start11's Right Click Menu Does Not Honor Windows Explorer Settings: "Open File Explorer To"  "This PC".

Version 24H2 (0S Build 26100.3194), Start 11 v2.52. & v2.51

 

Hi, I just found a bug with Start11 that took me restoring multiple backups to find the cause. I tested this on another computer as well. When right clicking on the start menu with "Show Win-X menu when right clicking on the start button rather than the Start11 one" set to OFF, and selecting "Open File Explorer":



File Explorer ignores the Windows settings "This PC" and shows "Libraries" while landing on "Home". (It should land on "This PC" based on my Windows Explorer settings." 

 



Next, I will change the Start11 setting "Show Win-X menu when right clicking on the start button rather than the Start11 one" set to ON.



Now the Start Right Click Menu is the Win 11 version.



And, selecting File Explorer properly lands on "This PC".



 

Windows 11 Pro v24H2 build 26100.3323 and Start11 v2.5.2.1 beta here.

Just checked and I have a different behaviour... when using Start11 menù it defaults to Collections, when I enable the option it defaults to Home.

Don't know if there is some other setting to tune to obtain This Pc as default.

Baio

Ok, changed the Windows option to "This PC" but using Start11 right-menù on Start button keeps defaulting to Collections.

Baio 

All of the other ways to access this default to "This PC" with this setting including the File Explorer shortcut, so I have added that as one of my "Quick Access Shortcuts" on the Start11 Start Button.

* [Bug] Please limit the maximum width of the Start11 context menu when right-clicking an application.

Some applications (Edge, Chrome, Firefox) add the full text of a web page to the shell jumplist history and Start11 ends up displaying a 3840x2160 resolution context menu:

* [Feature request] Please add a setting to remove the Start11 "More" submenu and show the items in the parent window when right-clicking the startmenu:

The default OS menu when right-clicking the start menu on Windows 11 shows the Run as administrator and Open file location options in the parent menu:

I regularly use the Run as administrator and Open file location options and accustomed to the default OS menu location. The Start11 "More" submenu breaks workflow and can be annoying since it doesn't always activate. The Run as administrator and Open file location options are very common and should be the first options at the top of the Start11 menu.  For example:

* [Feature request] This feature where holding CTRL and clicking the start button will display the default start menu instead of Start11:

The same feature should apply when right-clicking application tiles on the startmenu to display the Explorer file menu instead of the Start11 menu. For example:

Start11 shows this menu when right-clicking the application:

Holding CTRL and right-clicking would instead display the Explorer menu:

Hi, I ran the full 30 day trial of Start11 and didn't notice an issue. I've paid for a single licence today and when I click on the Start button, there is a momentary flash of a different start button/screen. Then Start11 appears and works correctly. 

If I click the Start button a second time, Start11 disappears and the other start button/screen is visible (the one that momentarily flashed when I first clicked the Start button).

Start11 works fine, but this flashing of the other start button is irritating. Is there any way to remove it?

I'm running Windows 11 Home, Version 10.0.22631 Build 22631.

At your suggestion I installed the 2.52.1 beta and this issue is the same.

Many thanks.

Well this issue not appearing on my system. Not really sure why it appear on yours. Maybe try uninstall and reinstall Telegram and Teams.

Thank you,

Basj,
Stardock Community Assistant

I've got a "black screen" issue going on that only seems to present when Start 11 is being used. The issue is present in both v2.51 and v2.52. 

Description as follows:

• Start 11 enabled
• Launch Netflix in browser (in Chrome)
• Load a show (can be playing or paused)
• Open Start 11 start menu
• Close Start 11 start menu

Expected behaviour:

Start 11 start menu opens and closes without issue, without affecting anything else. 

Actual behaviour:

Start 11 start menu opens fine, but close it causes the screen to go black. Screen then recovers after a few seconds. 

Additional info:

When this issue occurs, an error is logged in Windows event log as follows:

System specs:

• Windows 11, 1000.26100.83.0
• 9800X3D
• ASRock X870E Nova
• 64GB DDR5 6000/CL30
• RTX 5090, latest 576.26 (hotfix driver, based on 576.02 WHQL)

Any ideas what could be causing this?

No. The issue is NOT present if Start 11 is not used.

It doesn't even need to be "uninstalled", I can just turn off Start 11 so that the default Windows 11 Start Menu is used and the issue is fixed. 

We don't ignore reports if that is what you are questioning, Nikosyan...  We have been working on many things for an extended period but we will get to it...

Sean Drohan
Stardock Product Lifecycle Manager

You nailed!!! I have all these settings activated. Will give it a try by changing the settings as you advise when I get some free time. Thank you.

And I thought that there was no attention to the forum anymore, but then I saw a reply  to the next comment, so I found it strange not getting any answer. Thank you for your attention.

PS

I tried it, than main culprit is the center aligned taskbar, left start button and center aligned also does not work, when I change to left aligned the icons come back. Did not have to change the size of the taskbar and custm icon also worked. So I guess now the it is clearer where the bug is. Thanks