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Start 11 v2.5 Taskbar Pinning Issue

January 21, 2025 10:11:00 PM from WinCustomize ForumsWinCustomize Forums

I seem to be having an issue with taskbar pins with start11v2 2.5. When I pin a folder or menu to the taskbar, it does not retain the name of the folder I have selected. It gives it a random number (7) in this case for pinning the downloads folder onto the taskbar through the start11 pin menu. I opened the taskbar pins folder location to verify and as you can see below, it is labeled (7). It should be Office. This is a 100% fresh windows 10 install so I know there are no other softwares that could be conflicting.

 

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Reply #1 January 21, 2025 11:03:07 PM
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Hello,
Sorry to hear you are having issues. I just tested this on my Windows 10 system V22H2 (OS Build 19045.5371) Pinning the Download Folder via Start11 get me this.

Please try, uninstall Start11, reboot immediately (important), download latest version available in your account product download page: https://store.stardock.com/myaccount/products . Install it, reboot immediately again. Retest it and report back.

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Reply #2 January 21, 2025 11:19:10 PM
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Nope, still just numbering them. Like I said, I just reinstalled windows 10 this week with a fresh ISO from Microsofts website, so I know this is not an OS issue.

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Reply #3 January 22, 2025 12:43:43 AM
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Just as a test. Please test install in a Sandbox and see if you can see the same issue in there: https://forums.stardock.com/505872/start11-support-faq#windowssandbox

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Reply #4 January 22, 2025 12:53:28 AM
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Just as a test. Please test install in a Sandbox and see if you can see the same issue in there: https://forums.stardock.com/505872/start11-support-faq#windowssandbox

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I cannot enable that as it messes with my vmware virtual machines.

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Reply #5 January 22, 2025 12:58:54 AM
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Than test it on new Win10 VMware system.

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Reply #6 January 22, 2025 1:05:23 AM
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Quoting basj,
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Than test it on new Win10 VMware system.

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Its not installed on a vm, Its on real hardware as in my daily desktop.... I was saying enabling that sandbox break my virtual machines installs. Not related to the taskbar issue. So I cannot enable sandbox mode.

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Reply #7 January 22, 2025 1:15:31 AM
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Its not installed on a vm, Its on real hardware as in my daily desktop.... I was saying enabling that sandbox break my virtual machines installs. Not related to the taskbar issue. So I cannot enable sandbox mode.

I understand what you're trying to say. that is you enable Sandbox mode, your VM will break. That is why I suggest, you create a new Windows 10 system using your VMware and test Start11 while in that new Windows 10 box.

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Reply #8 January 22, 2025 1:39:18 AM
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Turns out it was a edit that allows the file picker to use the modern one rather than the list one. Disabling it allowed them to pin correctly again.

This is what start11 uses for picking a folder

Start11 really should be using this window for selecting folders.

Please forward this to them as a feature request, the small browse for folder is dated and annoying to use. Other modern apps out there use image #2 for most things now.

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Reply #9 January 22, 2025 1:54:04 AM
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Strangely, the Browse for Folder work on my system and I believe there are others who also pinned folder taskbar using the same method with no issue. I wonder what differ in your system on Explorer part that make the issue appear in your system.

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Reply #10 January 22, 2025 6:42:16 AM
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*Testing*

SimplexDesigns: Can you see the post now?

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Reply #11 January 22, 2025 6:56:35 AM
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*Testing*

SimplexDesigns: Can you see the post now?

I can now.

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Reply #12 January 22, 2025 6:57:19 AM
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Quoting basj,
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Strangely, the Browse for Folder work on my system and I believe there are others who also pinned folder taskbar using the same method with no issue. I wonder what differ in your system on Explorer part that make the issue appear in your system.

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Yeah idk what to say about that, it pins fine now when turned off. I pinned my things needed and then turned it back on.

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Reply #13 January 22, 2025 7:31:37 AM
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pins fine now when turned off.

What actually turned off?

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Reply #14 January 22, 2025 6:32:01 PM
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modern file picker in windhawk. It seems start11 is the only one that does not like that setting, works fine with my other apps. Start11 needs to swap to this modern file picker, its using a dated one that not very user friendly.

 

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pins fine now when turned off.



What actually turned off?

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Reply #15 January 22, 2025 7:21:35 PM
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Thank you for clarify that. So there is another application interfering on how Start11 work. I have forwarded your problem/question to Stardock Support Team for their assistance. Please keep an eye on this thread for any updates. We appreciate your feedback and patience.

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Reply #16 January 23, 2025 3:15:30 AM
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modern file picker in windhawk. It seems start11 is the only one that does not like that setting, works fine with my other apps. Start11 needs to swap to this modern file picker, its using a dated one that not very user friendly.



 


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Quoting SimplexDesigns,

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pins fine now when turned off.



What actually turned off?

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Unfortunately it sounds like that tool isn't correctly setting the path returned so we get a blank path hence the number append.

It would be very helpful for future bug reports if you list all the windhawk mods you have applied as they can break things like this.

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Reply #17 January 23, 2025 5:32:00 AM
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Just these that are on (plus that modern file picker not shown below). However, start11 should really be using that modern folder picker over the small file list dialog. Please update that picker to use what other apps use when selecting folders. That picker you guys use is a pain to select folders deep into the system. The shortcuts created with the numbers work, just dont name correctly.

This is the Ui that needs updating..

 

Please update to this type of interface (taken from handbreak folder selection)

 

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Unfortunately it sounds like that tool isn't correctly setting the path returned so we get a blank path hence the number append.
It would be very helpful for future bug reports if you list all the windhawk mods you have applied as they can break things like this.

 

 

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Reply #18 January 23, 2025 9:16:34 AM
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Just these that are on (plus that modern file picker not shown below). However, start11 should really be using that modern folder picker over the small file list dialog. Please update that picker to use what other apps use when selecting folders. That picker you guys use is a pain to select folders deep into the system. The shortcuts created with the numbers work, just dont name correctly.



This is the Ui that needs updating..



 

Please update to this type of interface (taken from handbreak folder selection)



 


Quoting Neil Banfield,
reply 16
Unfortunately it sounds like that tool isn't correctly setting the path returned so we get a blank path hence the number append.
It would be very helpful for future bug reports if you list all the windhawk mods you have applied as they can break things like this.



 

 

Unfortunately those newer style dialogs are not an exact replacement.  They do not let you pick recycle bin or control panel for example.  These are things customers sometimes want to pick.

We have added in a registry key to make S11 use the newer style dialogs which does not have the issue that tool you used causes.  This is optional and due to the above may always remain so.  The key to use will be noted in the release notes.

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Reply #19 January 23, 2025 8:29:57 PM
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Please forward this to them as a feature request, the small browse for folder is dated and annoying to use. Other modern apps out there use image #2 for most things now.

Thanks for requesting this feature. It has been added to 2.5.1.2 as a registry entry.

⦁ Use newer style Folder picker windows
Add a New String Value key and name it S11_UseNewFolderBrowser
set the Value data to 1
Create this new string key in:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Stardock\Start8\Start8.ini\Start8

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Reply #20 January 23, 2025 8:47:41 PM
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Quoting Neil Banfield,
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Unfortunately those newer style dialogs are not an exact replacement.  They do not let you pick recycle bin or control panel for example.  These are things customers sometimes want to pick.

We have added in a registry key to make S11 use the newer style dialogs which does not have the issue that tool you used causes.  This is optional and due to the above may always remain so.  The key to use will be noted in the release notes.

You can always add Control panel choosing Pin file and navigating to Windows>System32>control.exe

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Reply #21 January 23, 2025 11:34:27 PM
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For folks who aren't generally used to editing the Windows registry, the link below explains how to backup and restore the registry. Before editing, adding strings and changing values, a registry backup should be made. A System Restore point should be created. That way is explained in the lower link.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/how-to-back-up-and-restore-the-registry-in-windows-855140ad-e318-2a13-2829-d428a2ab0692

The better way is via System Restore. That way is described here:

https://www.howtogeek.com/197785/how-to-backup-and-restore-the-windows-registry/#backing-up-the-whole-registry-to-a-reg-file

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