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Objectdock 3.x not compatible with Windows 11 > 24H1 : Showing desktop will hide tabbed dock (Win+D)

October 5, 2024 8:19:04 AM from Stardock ForumsStardock Forums

Hello,

Now that Microsoft has officially released the ISO for version 24H2, we are all affected by this problem. ObjectDock 3.01 disappears every time Win-D is used.

Tested on a fresh installation of the OS, with no other software installed apart from the base OS.

None of the possible settings for ObjectDock 3.01 seem to work :

The docks disappear every time we quickly return to the desktop (button in the bottom right corner of the taskbar or using the Win-D command).

 

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Reply #1 October 5, 2024 9:15:00 AM
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Hello,
Sorry to hear you are having issues. Just to confirm this issue only on tab docks, yes? No issue on Quick launch?

Thank you.
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Reply #2 October 5, 2024 2:19:12 PM
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I haven’t tested the other docks. To be honest, I’m only interested in the tabbed docks.  
You're not the only one facing this issue with Windows 24H2.

Other developers of customization software (modifying backgrounds/adding docks) are currently experiencing similar inconveniences.

For instance, Rainmeter is also affected, and I don't think Microsoft is going to change anything about it.

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Reply #3 October 5, 2024 8:31:27 PM
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Thank you for confirming, its only on tab dock. I have forward your problem/question to Stardock Support Team for their assistance. Please keep an eye on this thread for any updates. We appreciate your feedback and patience.

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Reply #4 November 9, 2024 6:07:01 AM
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Has Microsoft fixed its issue, or is it Objectdock/Stardock that needs to adapt?

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Reply #5 November 9, 2024 6:27:32 AM
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Hello,
I have forwarded your problem/question again to Stardock Support Team for their assistance. Please keep an eye on this thread for any updates. We appreciate your feedback and patience.

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Reply #6 November 9, 2024 7:17:03 AM
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It’s not MY problem but everyone’s problem.

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Reply #7 November 12, 2024 12:31:59 PM
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Hi DamienCr,

Quoting ,
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The docks disappear every time we quickly return to the desktop (button in the bottom right corner of the taskbar or using the Win-D command).

Thank you for reporting this.  One thing I noticed in testing, is if the position of the Tabbed Dock is against the edge of the screen (instead of floating somewhere), this didn't occur for me.  You might want to try that while this gets looked into.  In any case, I now have it logged internally.

Internal Ref: ODNT-9126

Thanks again and best regards,

Adam McGuinness
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Reply #8 November 12, 2024 4:49:48 PM
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In looking into this further, it seems that even in 23H2, any floating dock will also hide when Windows Key+D is used.  (Also, we have noted that some funky behavior might occur if the Object Dock UI is open when using the Win Key+D functionality, so you may need to make sure that's closed for more reliable behavior.)

The Tabbed Dock hiding can be avoided either by:

  • Having the dock positioned at the edge of the screen as previously suggested,
  • Or alternatively by changing the Accessibility setting for your Tabbed Dock to "Tabs on top" (as pictured below)

Please give these solutions a try.

Thanks for your feedback,

Adam McGuinness
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Reply #9 November 13, 2024 5:26:55 AM
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With the "Tabs on TOP" setting, the dock remains permanently on top, above all currently used applications (Outlook, Teams, etc.).

This limits me in my daily tasks. After 11 years of using ObjectDock, I feel like I've lost my ability to use a computer effectively  

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Reply #10 November 13, 2024 9:36:39 AM
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Quoting DamienCr,
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This limits me in my daily tasks. After 11 years of using ObjectDock, I feel like I've lost my ability to use a computer effectively  

I expect the reason for the difference you've noticed is due to Windows behavior, though as tested this was not from a change between 23H2 to 24H2.  Possibly something may have changed in Windows since the original Object Dock.  That would have been built differently back around the Windows 8 days. 

That all said, I'm happy to put your experience in as a feature request, though please know we can't give any assurances at this time due to the ever-evolving nature of Windows.  In any case, we do value your feedback.  In the meantime, you might also try docking on the edge of the screen.  I hope that helps.

Thanks again,

Adam McGuinness
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Reply #11 November 13, 2024 12:01:56 PM
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Quoting Abisnabidam,
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That all said, I'm happy to put your experience in as a feature request, though please know we can't give any assurances at this time due to the ever-evolving nature of Windows.

I am absolutely NOT submitting anything as a feature request!

I'm talking about an issue you need to manage as the software publisher, which affects all your ObjectDock 3.x customers. Shifting responsibility to the OS publisher (MS Windows) is your concern, not ours.

Further discussion here is pointless. Delaying action will only fuel the debate. The only acceptable discussion would be to share a roadmap for development and bug fixes.

You decided to refresh ObjectDock 2.x to try to capitalize on it… fine. However, since v3.01, you haven’t provided any new features or support — is the project dead on arrival? I call this a blatant scam.

Stardock sold me an ObjectDock 2.x -> 3.x license as Windows 11-compatible.

That’s in your advertising. Now, it’s up to you to take responsibility.

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Reply #12 November 22, 2024 4:09:24 PM
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Update to Windows 24H2 KB5046617, the compatibility issue with ObjectDock 3.01 is still ongoing.

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Reply #13 November 22, 2024 4:24:10 PM
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Update to Windows 24H2 KB5046617, the compatibility issue with ObjectDock 3.01 is still ongoing.

Thanks for the update, though as I mentioned before we do already have this reproduced and logged internally.  You are welcome to watch this thread for updates; we will continue to do what we can.

Best regards,

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Reply #14 November 27, 2024 10:50:54 AM
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Windows 11 update KB5046740 does not appear to resolve the issue with ObjectDock 3.01.

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